What do you mean by all scores? I did not handpick, I took all the top EU/US
MM scores.
You obviously cannot use all scores meaning the ones that are not
competitive or comparable. And If we take the top SO, MS, M2 I suspect the
picture would be about the same. On a quick glance I see that in SSB part EU
stations seem to edge out and in CW rather US for some reason (just like in
MM).
Anyhow I believe that MM scores are most representative as they take the
band change/optimization strategy out of the picture and show us a full 48
hour comparison over all bands.
I am just comparing US/EU here not talking about z8, etc..
Anyhow, you are of course welcome to make and present any statistics you
find interesting.
73
Tonno
Es5tv
From: Bob Kupps [mailto:n6bk@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 1:40 PM
To: Tonno Vahk; k5zd@charter.net; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 2 point rule
>But looking at the CQWW MM claimed scores this year I suddenly find us
>having a really great competition with K3LR and W3LPL. Isn't that
wonderful?
Hi Tonno, yes it's wonderful but it's also purely coincidence!
>Looking at EU/US MM top 10 (below) I conclude that the scoring is totally
>fair. EU and US are mixed and all depends on the conditions and the effort.
>What else would be a better indicator of the level playing field than MM
>scores??
Oh, I don't know....using all the scores instead of just the ones you pick
to reach your 'conclusion' perhaps?
73 Bob HS0ZIA
On Friday, November 29, 2013 5:19 PM, Tonno Vahk <tonno.vahk@gmail.com>
wrote:
Generally I have been very indifferent on the scoring as to my mind NA, AF,
EU, etc are in totally different categories and who cares how the other
continent is being scored.
But looking at the CQWW MM claimed scores this year I suddenly find us
having a really great competition with K3LR and W3LPL. Isn't that wonderful?
Looking at EU/US MM top 10 (below) I conclude that the scoring is totally
fair. EU and US are mixed and all depends on the conditions and the effort.
What else would be a better indicator of the level playing field than MM
scores??
SSB
ES9C 19531 206 818 48 40,682,496
K3LR 14363 202 805 48 39,054,481
DR1A 16154 200 793 48 34,127,424
W3LPL 10709 198 750 48 28,061,748
II9P 14573 191 737 48 26,949,120
WE3C 9993 194 739 48 26,013,906
LZ9W 12562 193 723 48 21,748,588
KL7RA 12913 176 506 48 21,358,194
ED1R 11944 185 671 48 20,629,600
DFØHQ 11010 196 769 48 20,177,185
CW
K3LR 11884 210 840 48 35,226,450
W3LPL 11643 206 839 48 34,338,700
ES9C 15508 219 875 48 32,562,910
9A1A 14366 209 827 48 30,040,892
W2FU 10497 198 783 48 28,793,331
WE3C 9596 199 799 48 27,379,132
DR1A 12785 212 832 48 26,915,364
ED6A 14480 203 737 48 24,012,300
LZ9W 12199 212 797 44 23,589,411
NR4M 8946 192 722 48 23,407,540
73
Tonno
ES5TV
-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
Randy Thompson K5ZD
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 5:42 AM
To: 'Bob Kupps'; cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 2 point rule
Attempts to introduce scoring changes for other areas of the world was
included as a question topic in the 2013 CQ WW participant survey. Review
the voting results and the comments in the pdf file at
http://cqww.com/blog/?p=150
The first level challenge is to define the problem (or even if there is
one). Then to define what the scoring should optimize. Only then can you
rationally discuss the options.
Maintaining the status quo is strong with reflector readers.
Randy, K5ZD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of Bob Kupps
> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 12:22 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: [CQ-Contest] 2 point rule
>
> Hi and thanks for all the comments.
>
> I am persuaded by the arguments in favor of retaining the 2 point rule
> for NA. In fact those arguments apply to other continents as well and
> IMO applying the 2 point rule equally across the globe for all intra-
> continental Qs would seem to go a long way toward reducing by half the
> penalty for crossing over arbitrary continental boundaries (3-2 vs 3-1).
>
> Would this rule change be an affront to anyone's sense of good
> sportsmanship and fair play?
>
> 73 Bob
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