Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?

["Larry" <lknain@nc.rr.com>]

It is usually obvious when that mode of operation is being done. Usually a 
DX operation rather than contest in my experience. I have not seen it on CW 
that I recall but fairly often on SSB. Latecomers to the party may still 
call over the next in the list until they catch on to the short list aspect.
There are some great operators out there that can capture several calls at a 
time and keep the pile under control. I can capture several calls many 
times. But the danger is that going from call to call often triggers the 
calling frenzy that can easily get out of hand for most of us.
73, Larry  W6NWS

-----Original Message----- 
From: Zack Widup
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 9:41 AM
To: CQ Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?

There may be another scenario in the exchange outlined below. The
running station may write several callsigns down after he says "QRZ?".
Then, after working one, he may call the next on his little list. I've
known people who were very good at this!

73, Zack W9SZ


On 11/26/13, Larry <lknain@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> I suspect people do it because it can work.
>
> I have heard DX stations lecture the pile about not calling while working
> someone. So then a QSO ends "LU5DX TU W7AAA 599.." which means the DX
> station was copying other calls. Thus, one could conclude that I should 
> call
> during the QSO so the DX station will hear my call and call me next. But 
> the
> other stations listening often figure out the scheme and call too. Chaos. 
> Of
> course, if it was "LU5DX TU YU5DX 599..." I can understand in that you 
> both
> have very similar calls. It is not usually that close.
>
> I don't think I have heard as belligerent case as your DL8 over the DK5.
> Many stations will easily cave and work the DL8 and the poor DK5 may not 
> get
> worked after all. Once working the DL8 after having called the DK5 then it
> can degenerate into a calling mess. (After all, how can you not hear me? I
> am 599 and clear in my headphones!)  It can be hard sticking to what you
> call because it can kill your rate but there are ops that do it (I forget
> who but there were at least a couple heard this past weekend - a 5H and 5R 
> I
> think). Trying to regroup if I heard DK5 and it wasn't actually DK5 can be
> interesting because that can open up the calling again.
>
> 73, Larry  W6NWS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin , LU5DX
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:53 AM
> To: Ron Notarius W3WN
> Cc: CQ-Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?
>
> Super weird things happened. Compulsive calling is spreading like a
> decease!
> But not only that. There is now bullying calling.
>
> In the middle of an unruly pile up some DK5 called in. I copied his full
> call at once and came back to him with ENNA2.
> There was this other DL8 also calling and he simply continued to call 
> after
> I came back to the DK5.
> He was so strong I was not able to copy the exchange being sent by the 
> DK5.
> No ony that. The DL8 said I'm not DK5... I'm DL8.....
> So no way out but to stop the pile  and asked the DL8 why he was that 
> LID!!
> And he insisted I'm not DK5... And I said. I know you are not, I'm working
> someone else and I'm not working you for sure, so please QSY.
> Really bad operating manners were mostly shown by countries from certain
> countries, but now, it's pandemic!
> Just as in 2012. I had to wait long on big egos to ID (some of them
> repeating their techniques from last year).
>
> Anyways lots of fun as usual.
>
> I wonder if the WWROF will take a more proactive approach on all these
> topics.
>
> Best 73.
>
> Martin, LU5DX
> Op at CE3CT this past WWCW.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN
> <wn3vaw@verizon.net>wrote:
>
> > And of course, we all remember a well know US amateur working in Kuwait,
> > who was known to answer partial calls (and other liddish behavior) with
> > "you're in the log" instead of a signal report.
> >
> > So, someone who called (and called and called ) "FOUR LIMA) and sent a
> > card to that station's manager as "W4LID" would be told... he's not in
> > the
> > log.  The log showed '4L' but not 'W4LID'
> >
> > (apologies to the real W4LID, if any, I simply used that call as an
> > example)
> >
> > 73
> >
> > On 11/25/13, Milt -- N5IA wrote:
> >
> > Been there; done that. During the CQ 160 SSB 'test I operated as VP6DX
> > from
> > Ducie Atoll in February of 2008 there were two prominent "Big Guns" who
> > never made it in the log because of their inability to follow
> > instructions
> > and kept calling, calling, calling while I was trying to get another call
> > sign correct. This went on for HOURS.
> >
> > Sad, but true.
> >
> > Mis dos centavos,
> >
> > de Milt, N5IA
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe
> > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 7:53 AM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why?
> >
> > .... CUT ....
> >
> > If i ever had the chance to be at the other end, I'd make a
> > list of lid's like this, and make sure they never get worked.
> >
> > But Just my own opinion.
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> >
> >
> >
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