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Re: [CQ-Contest] Running ID

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Running ID
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@citlink.net>
Reply-to: k0rc@citlink.net
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 09:52:07 -0600
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Get ready for another heated thread...

"...so I often call a station before I know who it is."

You are violating rule #5 of the Contesting Code of Ethics:

http://contestuniversity.com/attachments/The_Contesting_Code_of_Ethics.pdf

which also refers to the DX Code of Ethics, specifically the first three items:

http://www.dx-code.org/

Your time is no more valuable than any other operators time in the contest.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN

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On 11/4/2013 12:17 PM, w2lc@twcny.rr.com wrote:
When S&P I use the old adage of work-em first and worry about it later.  However not IDing 
complicates that strategy.  When S&P I try to keep the rate up, so I often call a station before 
I know who it is.  If they do not ID very soon afterwards, I give them a NIL.  Can’t log a QSO 
with the call sign field blank.  Yes I sometimes put them into memory and listen later. Or use the 
second radio. But I am not going to wait 10 Q’s for an ID, 2 or 3 maybe but not much more.

I look at it this way, it is the responsibility of every station to ID, and if they 
don’t ID they risk getting a NIL.  You can't log what you don't receive. I 
don’t like losing the Q but no ID, no call, no Q, pretty simple.  The other station 
only loses a W2, so no big deal.

Rick K6VVA said:  “Failing to ID on a reasonable basis is arrogant selfishness at the expense 
of other people's valuable time.  …..   The worst example of arrogant, selfish, irresponsible 
foolishness is the expedition operator I clocked several years ago making QSOs for 30 minutes 
straight without sending his callsign even once”.

Well Rick, I agree, a few years ago (maybe the same DXpedition) I worked one of 
those DXpeditions and listened about 2-1/2 hours for an ID while I worked on 
something else in the shack.  I never did hear the station ID.  So I went on 
the internet and looked it up.  Is that really a QSO? I'll call it assisted!

Since the DXpedition accreditation people approved the operation for award 
credit, that implies that IDing is optional. No ID for several hours should 
mean no credit for the operation what so ever. But the approval says otherwise, 
IDing is indeed optional. At least for now. And I always thought you had to 
operate within the rules of the country you are in, but I guess not.

73 Scott W2LC
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