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Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU HQ Callsigns

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] IARU HQ Callsigns
From: "Martin , LU5DX" <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 10:48:34 -0300
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Thank you so much John for your note.
We'll find a way out here in  LU-land for next year's IARU HF Championship.

Vy 73.

Martin, LU5DX


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:44 AM, John Dorr <k1ar@aol.com> wrote:

> Good morning all,
>
> I'd like to shed some light on the IARU HF Championship callsign debate,
> put forth the final action plan and have us move on.
>
> Several years ago, the World Wide Radio Operators Foundation (WWROF)
> offered to take on the tasks of scoring and adjudicating the HQ station
> logs for the IARU HF Championship. The ARRL agreed. As a result, WWROF has
> been providing log-checking and score-calculation services for this event
> to ARRL since that time and have had no issues.
>
> In recent days, we have become aware that the Italian national society
> (Associazione Radioamatori Italiani, or ARI) plans to use more than one
> callsign on several bands in the contest next weekend (different callsigns
> on CQ and Phone on some bands). The ARI has been operating in this manner
> for a few years. This is a violation of Rule 4.3.3, which states "Only one
> HQ station callsign per member society per frequency band is permitted."
>
> This rule exists so that it is clear that working the same HQ station on
> Phone and CW on one band counts for only one multiplier. With different
> callsigns on each mode, some operators may think they are working a new
> multiplier when they contact a "second" HQ station in the same country.
>
> In some countries, it is possible to use a single callsign across all
> regions (TM0HQ, for example). In other countries this is not allowed
> (Italy, Spain, Japan, for example), so a multi-site operation may require
> the use of multiple callsigns for one HQ operation. If you review the IARU
> HF Championship results for 2012, you will notice that the HQ stations in
> Italy and Japan are listed as "IUxHQ" and 8NxHQ", since each of these
> stations was spread out over multiple call areas and the score computed as
> if all were using the same callsign.
>
> A close review of last year's logs shows that three HQ stations (LRxF,
> IUxHQ, and 8NxHQ) violated Rule 4.3.3 by using different callsigns in the
> CW and Phone segments of several bands. This rule was not enforced last
> year nor in any previous years.
>
> The URE (Spain) has announced their plan for an operation in this weekend's
> 2013 contest that is in full compliance with the rule (e.g., the HQ
> stations will use the same callsign on both modes on the same band).
>
> On the other hand, both the ARI and the Radio Club Argentino have also
> announced their plans for this weekend with a planned callsign approach
> that does not comply with Rule 4.3.3.
>
> The ARI has claimed that they received permission from someone at ARRL at
> some time in the past to use different callsigns on a band. Any such
> permission was given in error. However, we will honor that permission this
> year, and will not disqualify the ARI entry or any other entries that
> violate Rule 4.3.3.
>
> Planning a major multi-site HQ station operation is a significant
> undertaking, and it seems unfair to force the ARI (or RCA, or JARL) to move
> some of their stations to different call areas at this late date in order
> to comply with a rule that has never been enforced. We will note in the
> results that the ARI station (and any other stations in the same situation)
> did not comply with Rule 4.3.3.
>
> This is going to be a one-time exception. All IARU member society HQ
> stations will be required to comply fully with all rules for the 2014 IARU
> HF Championship.
>
> It is understandable that some member societies that are working hard to
> plan HQ operations in strict compliance with the rules will be unhappy with
> this ruling. We ask that they accept this decision in the spirit of good
> sportsmanship and that everyone have fun and make lots of QSOs this
> weekend.
>
> 73,
> John, K1AR
> Chairman, WWROF
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Martin , LU5DX <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>wrote:
>
>> Hi Tree.
>> Well...That is your interpretation of the rule.
>> LU4AA has been entering the contest using the same callsign scheme since
>> 2007 upon agreement with the organizers.
>>
>> To me:
>> 10 M CW is one frequency band
>> 10 M SSB is a complete different frequency band.
>>
>> Band plans are split by MODE, not only considering a range of frequencies
>> "per se".
>>
>> Vy 73.
>>
>> Martin, LU5DX
>>
>> PD: According to LU regulations we cannot enter the contest using a single
>> callsign for the 12 stations. LU Call areas are divided by territory
>> Provinces and those are identified by the first letter of the callsign
>> suffixes.
>>
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>> Saw this recently posted:
>>
>> >* The Radio Club Argentino LU4AA and the LUCG (LU Contest Group) put
>> together*>* a team for the upcoming IARU HF Championship next weekend and
>> several*>* stations will be giving out the RCA multiplier.*>* *>* Stations
>> as follows - hosts in parenthesis - :*>* *>* 10 SSB: LR1D*>* 10 CW LR2H*>*
>> 15 SSB LR0H*>* 15 CW LR0F*
>> ...
>>
>> This appears to conflict with the following rule for the IARU contest:
>>
>> "4.3.3. Only one HQ station callsign per member society per frequency
>> band is
>> permitted."
>>
>> The rules can be found here: http://www.arrl.org/iaru-hf-championship
>>
>> I would interpret a "frequency band" as being all of 10 meters for
>> example.
>>
>> This is likely the case because of the way the multiplier rule is worded:
>>
>> "Multipliers: The total number of ITU zones plus IARU member society HQ
>> stations worked on each band (not mode)."
>>
>> In the case above - I am sure the intent of the rules would not have been
>> to count LR1D and LR2H as two multpliers in the contest.
>>
>> Tree N6TR
>>
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