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Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

To: "Rick Lindquist, WW1ME" <ww1me@roadrunner.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:51:15 -0500
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I know how League governance is arranged. What I don't understand is why some things like this couldn't be delegated to a Board Committee. Oh wait, I said that in my last e-mail.

My ARRL Director is totally unresponsive as far as I can tell - and I'm far from the only Roanoke ARRL member who says so.

Lest this be construed as ARRL-bashing from the outside, I've been a member and supporter continuously since 1954 or '55, and will continue to be. I do think that gives me some right to ask *why* things are done in a certain way and get an answer other than "because that's the way it is."

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/25/2013 4:13 PM, Rick Lindquist, WW1ME wrote:

No, but you now have asked Sean regarding board action on the proposed rules change, and he's a person who should know.

I was simply explaining how League governance typically works, since you had asked "Why it requires a decision at that level." In my experience the board has voted by e-mail or teleconference on a few occasions, but this is the exception, and that wasn't the question you raised anyway. Your ARRL director or perhaps Pres Craigie or EVP Dave Sumner can address this governance issue far better than I could.

But, I don't have a dog in this hunt.

73, Rick, WW1ME

*From:*Pete Smith N4ZR [mailto:n4zr@contesting.com]
*Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 3:54 PM
*To:* Rick Lindquist, WW1ME
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*Subject:* Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

Rick, I'm well aware of that, which is why I contacted Directors who contest, to try to get the issue before the Board. My question really goes to why the question has to wait for a semi-annual Board meeting, when a Board committee could vote on such minor matters by e-mail "as needed." You seem to be well patched in - do you know what they decided, if anything?

On second thought, I'm copying Sean - he should know.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 1/25/2013 12:00 PM, Rick Lindquist, WW1ME wrote:

    Pete, the CAC is what it says - "advisory." It's also comprised of

    volunteers. The CAC reports its findings and recommendations to the Board of

    Directors, and the board decides (or not). This puts the decision-making in

    the hands of individuals who have been elected by the ARRL membership.

    73, Rick, WW1ME

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    Pete Smith N4ZR

    Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:32 AM

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    Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

    What Rich says is correct.  I would just add that the ARRL 10 and 160

    contests are severely anachronistic in this respect.  Nobody is suggesting

    that assistance be allowed for "pure" single-ops, but surely there should be

    a SOA category in these contests. That there is not dates back to the

    earliest days of DX clusters.  To my knowledge, nobody has advanced a reason

    for keeping the status quo.

    I have been in correspondence with the CAC and various directors about this,

    and one told me that action might be taken in the January ARRL Board

    meeting, which has just taken place.  Why it requires a decision at that

    level is beyond me, but that's what we have.  Now waiting for detailed

    minutes to learn what, if anything, was done.

    73, Pete N4ZR

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    On 1/25/2013 8:51 AM, Richard DiDonna NN3W wrote:

        Usually if it says nothing, the assumption is that you must classify

    yourself as multi-single as the single operator rules have language about

    the -operator- doing all of the activity.

        ARRL 160 and ARRL 10 do not have separate assisted categories -

    necessitating that assisted ops enter as multi single entries.

        73 Rich NN3W

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        Date: Fri, Jan 25, 2013 7:30 am

        Subject: [CQ-Contest] Non-assisted & Assisted

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        If a contest's rules say nothing about Assisted operation, does that

        mean it's allowed without restriction?

        Note that Single-Op has no uniform definition.  For example, in the

        ARRL RTTY Roundup, Single-Ops cannot be Assisted, while in the CQ WPX

        RTTY everyone can operate Assisted.

        73,

        Kermit (Ken) AB1J

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