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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Update

To: "w0yk@msn.com" <w0yk@msn.com>, "cq-contest@contesting.com" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Update
From: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 08:23:45 -0700 (PDT)
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I really don't believe I am reading this in a public forum- it is illegal for 
participants to massage their logs after the contest, but it is OK, and in fact 
it is a common practice, for the contest organizers to tweak the logs? Why? I 
see a double standard here. I am sorry, but a failure to produce a proper log 
should not be treated any differently than a failure to play by all other 
rules, copy whatever exchange is being sent, know your own call sign and send 
it in a legible way, etc. It is precisely because of technology, where 
everybody is using a logger, that there should be no excuses for producing a 
proper log. 


Rudy N2WQ

P.S. Log analysis for behavior indicative of cheating does make sense.


________________________________
 From: Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Update
 
The scoring technology is excellent.  3500 CQ WPX RTTY logs were completely
checked in about 15 minutes on an garden-variety PC.  85% of all QSOs
cross-checked, calls busted that are off by two characters, all the scores
listings and tables for the magazine article properly formatted, etc.
However, hundreds of volunteer hours are put into manually correcting logs
for Cabrillo errors, wrong band, wrong date/time, wrong sent callsign, etc.
Running further tests and analysis to detect and validate cheating takes
many more volunteer hours.  Its this manual labor that takes a couple months
of calendar time by unpaid volunteers to get the logs straightened out so
the log check software can run with credible results.

There's not much manual labor in submitting a contest log to the robot after
the contest.  Five days is more than enough time.  Moreover, if individuals
would look over their log during those five days and correct the formatting
errors, the subsequent log checking time could decrease with less time spent
by others cleaning up the logs.

Ed W0YK


Rudy, N2WQ, wrote:
> Does this also mean that the results will be available and 
> published much quicker? Not much use of technology if it's 
> not applied to scoring as well.

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