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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Magazine Award Policy for Remote Base Operations

To: "Albert Crespo" <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Magazine Award Policy for Remote Base Operations
From: "Radio K0HB" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 16:09:28 -0000
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If I can operate from my comfy chair, why would I consider going to that 100 
degree shack?

The technology for remote operation is approaching zero cost, other than the 
cost of an internet connection, and the savings of air fare/excess baggage 
pretty much covers that.

Why is the location of the OPERATOR important, so long as the radio station 
location complies with the contest rules (500M circle, and all that)?

Is there some elevated worthiness that comes from suffering from heat rash 
and distended bladders?

73, de Hans, K0HB

-----Original Message----- 
From: Albert Crespo
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 3:45 PM
To: K0HB
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Magazine Award Policy for Remote Base 
Operations

Hans,
Try operating in a 100 degree shack for 48 hours, no toilet nearby, etc.,-
is that as comfy as you chair?

-----Original Message----- 
From: K0HB
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 2:22 PM
To: Albert Crespo
Cc: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Magazine Award Policy for Remote Base
Operations

Al,

I'm in my living room in a comfy leather chair writing to you from my iPad.
Much more comfortable than the office-style chair in my shack, and K0CKB
kindly refills my coffee mug from time to time.

>From this same seat using this same iPad I can launch a free iPad app 
>(google "CommCat Mobile") to operate my station remotely.  If a new country 
>comes on the air, will I get DXCC credit if I work him from here, or must I 
>leave this comfy chair and work him from my stiff office chair in the 
>shack?

Do I get more contest karma if I make my operating conditions less
comfortable?

73, de Hans, K0HB



On Jun 21, 2012, at 4:10 AM, "Albert Crespo" <f5vhj@orange.fr> wrote:

> Is there the perception that   operating from a doggy  place where if you
> forget to use bottle water to brush your teeth can cause disease  is
> equivalent to operating from the comforts of  your own home?
> Fatigue is a big factor in a 48 hour contest  and having  a remote setup 
> is
> a clear advantage over someone who is not doing so.
> There are no travel or jet lag issues when operating from home. The list
> goes on and on on the side of being at the site.
> If people want to use remote, fine, but let's not kind anybody that is the
> same as being at the site.
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: W0MU Mike Fatchett
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 4:07 AM
> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ Magazine Award Policy for Remote Base
> Operations
>
> I agree Ken.
>
> If I want to spend the money to build a remote station in J6 or HK or
> wherever and it is legal it should be allowed.  Where the operator sits
> is of little consequence.   The contacts are made with a STATION in J6
> or HK.
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>
> On 6/20/2012 5:36 PM, Ken Widelitz wrote:
>> CQ Magazine, June, 2012, Page 91:
>>
>> "Contacts with a remote base station are valid for all CQ contest and
>> award
>> purposes. Award applications by a remote base operator are permitted only
>> if
>> both the station (transmitters, receivers, and antennas) and the operator
>> are located in the same country (entity)."
>>
>> Are "contest" awards (certificates, plaques, trophies) "by a remote base
>> operator" covered by the second sentence? Since the first sentence
>> indicates
>> it covers contest contacts, it is implied that the second sentence does
>> also. Personally, I couldn't care less about CQ Magazine non-contest
>> awards,
>> but I do care about contest awards.
>>
>> If this policy applies to contests, it is a terrible policy. Policies
>> should
>> be implemented in order to have MORE entities to work in contests, not
>> less
>> (i.e., my understanding is that the 2 point NA QSO rule was implemented 
>> to
>> encourage Dxpeditions to NA entities.) Also, it would be another rule
>> where
>> it is almost impossible to detect a violation.
>>
>> What difference does it make where the operator is located when operating
>> a
>> remote station? In every case, the operator simply is not at the station
>> where transmitters, receivers, and antennas are located.
>>
>> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT (not yet remotable, but most probably will be in 
>> the
>> future)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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