Removing a QSO from the log as a result of receiving an email is a rules
violation.
Ed - W0YK
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> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> kd4d@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, 03 April, 2009 09:36
> To: CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Ethics
>
> Hi Rick:
>
> Faced with the NIL penalty, I would, in this case, remove the
> QSO from my log before submittal. I would include a note to
> the contest sponsor, with the log information for the deleted
> QSO, but I don't know if they would read it...
>
> Cabrillo really needs a way to mark a QSO so it is left in
> the log but isn't scored or penalized... :-)
>
> 73,
>
> Mark, KD4D
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K1TTT" <K1TTT@ARRL.NET>
> To: "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>
> Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 11:41:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Ethics
>
> I would say the 'more ethical' approach would have been for
> him to leave the contact in the log. After all he did make
> it, he can't cause it to go away just by taking it out of the
> log, in fact in the old days that could have been construed
> as falsifying your station log. Then he should have
> submitted the log to the contest sponsor with a note saying
> that he should not get credit for the specific contact
> because he accidentally violated his license restrictions.
> Unfortunately Cabrillo doesn't let you mark contacts like
> that as zero points and no multiplier credit like you could
> do with paper logs so it would be up to the sponsor to
> un-score the contact.
>
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Dougherty NQ4I [mailto:nq4i@contesting.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:47
> > To: CQ Contest
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Fwd: Ethics
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Rick Dougherty NQ4I <nq4i@contesting.com>
> > Date: Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 7:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Ethics
> > To: sawyered@earthlink.net
> >
> >
> > Hi All...this past weekend in WPX SSB, we worked a KB6 2x3
> call sign
> > on 15m....the qso took place on Friday evening on 15m...on
> Saturday I
> > received an email stating that the KB6 station had realized that he
> > had worked us and he was outside his general class
> privileges and that
> > he was removing the contact from HIS log and suggested that
> WE DO THE
> > SAME!!!!
> > If I did not take his qso out of my log, then he would have
> been a NIL
> > and I would have been penalized even more...anyone ever had this
> > before?
> >
> > de Rick NQ4I
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Edward
> <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > You must be assuming that the log shows frequency data.
> In my case,
> > > I am using older software that logs all 20M QSOs as 14000.
> > >
> > > In general, I disagree with the responsibility of the receiving
> > > station "having any responsibility" of knowing the "other
> stations
> > > regs". Why pick on VEs as "they should know US regs".
> Heck, I don't know VE regs.
> > > I have to assume after hearing decades of VEs working staions
> > > simplex on 14150 - 14100 and 7100 - 7000 on SSB that they can
> > > legally do that, but do I KNOW? Nope.
> > >
> > > And what of the last few years when an I or a G or HB9 or
> whatever
> > > has called me on 7188 or even 7225 simplex? I have no
> idea whether
> > > they can legally call. All I know (through the
> grapevine) is that
> > > allocations are changing so they must have that ability now.
> > >
> > > I think it is totally unfair to ask the CQing station
> doing 100+ an
> > > hour to be "hanging out an ethical filter" in the heat of
> the battle
> > > as they log Qs.
> > >
> > > And contrary to the statement made earlier by someone
> that this is a
> > > 0.1% problem. It absolutely is not. I hear dozens of
> out of band
> > > Qs every contest on 40M as stations call simplex on EU stations
> > > running split. I am assuming most are using the cluster to point
> > > and shout and not watching what they are doing.but that
> is just an
> > > assumption on my part.
> > >
> > > Ed N1UR
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