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Re: [CQ-Contest] Use of di-di-dah-dah-di-dit in CW Contest

To: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@pclink.com>, k1kaa@arrl.net, "CQ-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Use of di-di-dah-dah-di-dit in CW Contest
From: steve.root@culligan4water.com
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:46:50 +0000
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OK....I call CQ and I have a weak station answering me, who then gets clobbered 
by an impatient S&P guy who sends "?" on top of the caller? That drives me 
nuts. Hold off on the "?" and wait 3 seconds for the next CQ please.

73 Steve K0SR
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chudek - K0RC [mailto:k0rc@pclink.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 10:18 AM
To: k1kaa@arrl.net, 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Use of di-di-dah-dah-di-dit in CW Contest

That's another good contesting nuance you brought up Mike. If I am running and 
I get a "?" after my CQ, I immediately press the F4 key (my call). That is, if 
no one else is calling me. Why would you make the S&P station wait around for 
your CQ timer to trip off another round in 10 seconds or so. You've got a 
"customer" waiting right now. If I don't get an immediate reply from the "?" 
station after my F4, the other fellow has determined I am already in his log 
and has moved on. There's nothing I need to do but press the F1 again to start 
another CQ sequence. On the other hand, if I'm in S&P mode and tune to a 
station as he is finishing "test", if I don't hear anyone calling him, I'll 
drop a "?" on freq. If he comes back with a "?", I figure he is not interested 
in rate so I just tune on down the band. His loss. If there's a "?" sent and an 
immediate F4 returned, that's time saved on both ends. And time saved equals a 
higher rate. I don't understand what there is to get frustrated about. What has 
I missed? 73 de Bob - KØRC in MN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike 
DeChristopher, K1KAA" To: "CQ-Contest" Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:09 AM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Use of di-di-dah-dah-di-dit in CW Contest Some people 
get very frustrated when S&P'ers send a "?" after their CQ. You'll get the 
callsign in a second or two; I don't think it will kill the rate. In fact, 
sending "?" and waiting for him to send his call may take just as long. Same 
with phone weekends: saying "YOUR CALL?" usually makes the running op angry. 
There's a situation for everything, though. Or maybe "the other guy" only 
caught part of SQ5M's ..--.. and figured he heard a call. Either way, the 
problem would have been avoided if he just listened to the next CQ. RX first. 
-- Mike DeChristopher, K1KAA k1kaa@arrl.net http://k1kaa.413ma.org AR-Cluster 
node telnet://dx.413ma.org Tim Goeppinger wrote: > I was watching a video of 
SQ5M operating an Elecraft K3 during CQ WPX CW > tonight. > 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl9mUBC-v-g > He is doing a fine job of S&P up 
and down 80M. At 1:12 in the video he > tunes across > the tail end of a CQ 
(just TEST at the end) Trying to be efficient, SQ5M > fires a > ? 
(di-di-dah-dah-di-dit) at the guy who is running. The other guy sends a > 
di-di-dah-dah-di-dit > right back at him! Why? > > I have seen this alot 
lately. Is this rude, or just plain stupid? Why > can't the runner just just 
send his call? > Wouldn't it be more efficient to send your callsign once, than 
have the > S&Per send his? > > If I encounter this situation again when I am 
S&P, I really am tempted to > keep firing ?'s back , until they send their %*# 
callsign. > > (steps down from soapbox) > > 73, > > Tim K6GEP > > > > > > 
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