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From: "Robert Chudek - K0RC" <k0rc@pclink.com>
Reply-to: Robert Chudek - K0RC <k0rc@pclink.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:42:49 -0600
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Zack... No I did not know that! Thanks for posting the information and links.

This information helps reinforce my position that the (ingenious, forward 
looking, important, useful, priceless, add your favorite adjectives here) NCDXA 
International Beacon System needs to be relocated to clear channels outside the 
Amateur Radio bands. The exact frequencies would be secondary to the idea of 
relocating them to a clear "channel".

If anyone does not know about this beacon system, first launched in 1979, you 
will find everything about it here:  http://www.ncdxf.org/beacons.html

After the 2006 CQWW RTTY Contest there were calls to "clear the channel" on the 
rtty@contesting.com reflector. This is what I had to say about this 
interference topic at that time:  
http://lists.contesting.com/archives//html/RTTY/2006-09/msg00182.html

Relying upon non-enforceable band plans, gentleman's agreements, chastising 
clueless newbies or old farts that CRS (can't remember stuff) will only restart 
endless debate and stir everyone's emotions. The myriad of opinions and 
conclusions are not an effective solution to the recurring problem. Can and 
should the interference be reduced, certainly. I stay away from that frequency 
and encourage others. I always mention this issue when making RTTY 
presentations.

The Worldwide Beaconing System is an ingenious amateur radio project created 
and managed by the Board of Directors of NCDXA. I have always believed it held 
tremendous commercial potential. Can you imagine the consequences if the 
amateur community had "invented" the WWV time services and launched the 
reference signals inside the amateur bands? I suggest the importance of the 
NCDXA International Beacon system increases every day, especially when 
government and commercial users are using it.

The HAARP site indicates their project and system is supported by US Navy, US 
Air Force, and Department of Defense funding. You would expect these agencies 
would carry enough weight in a petition to convince the FCC to provide clear 
channels for this system.

I am NOT saying the NCDXA and the amateur community should hand over this 
system to a government agency. My recommendation is to petition the FCC for 
special frequencies outside the amateur radio bands. This move would solve the 
amateur radio interference that is occurring.

73 de Bob - KØRC in MN


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Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 09:42:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>
Subject: [CQ-Contest] HAARP propagation monitors
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Do you all know that the HAARP project site monitors the NCDXF beacons 
(among other things)?

http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/data.html

http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/beacon14.html

http://maestro.haarp.alaska.edu/data/spectrum2/www/beacon18.html

73, Zack W9SZ
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