On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 11:50:01AM -0700, Jack Brindle wrote:
> But Tree, why is it bad?
>
> The QSOs still have to be made. The exchanges have to be sent and
> received correctly. Just because one's friends get on to give him,
> but no one else, a QSO, doesn't necessarily make it bad thing.
Yes it does.
As Tree pointed out - if someone gets 57 of their friends
the air work him and only him this is just wrong.
> see in WRTC where the intent was to keep things very even between the
> operators. but that is a very specialized contest. In a contest such
> as Sweepstakes, where getting QSOs from non-participants has long
> been promoted, it just doesn't make sense to eliminate this activity.
I am glad you brought up sweepstakes - I happen to get on
in that contest sometimes.
I work unique contacts in this contest - in fact I would say it might
be one of the contests where I work the most unique contacts (on SSB -
there are few uniques in a top ten CW log). I would have no problem
tossing out all the unique QSOs in SS.
You can see my LCR reports here:
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr/logs/logcheck/
In the 2005 contest I had about 20 unique contacts - several of these
are most likely broken callsigns that were not detected (another good
reason to toss the uniques) - the rest are folks I have talked through
the exchange. If unique contacts are removed from all the logs I will
try to get the folks I talk through an exchange to go up the band and
make a few more contacts.
> By giving the operator a QSO, his friends had to learn what to send
> and receive for the QSO to be valid. Or he had to take the time, in
> the contest, to teach them. This is bad?
>
Yes - because you need to also teach them to work more than one
contact. What good is it to the heath of contest if they only
make one contact - how is that helping out the overall contest?
> Getting folks on for contests, whether it be friends or casual ops,
> educates others about contesting and what is needed to participate.
Again, if they make one contact I do not see how that can
be seen as 'getting them on for the contest' - when you teach
them about the contest you should also get them to make say 10 or
more contacts.
> Perhaps the one fellow that I spend time talking into a QSO on _this_
> contest might be a full-blown participant in the next contest. At the
> least he knows a bit more about contesting and maybe why I am
> participating.
He might be - tell him to work a few more folks - he stands a better
chance of learning about the contest if he gets to have more fun
making more contacts.
> punished for it. And yes, I can point to several instances over the
> last few years where I have had perfectly good QSOs removed. Even
Can you share these with us?
--
George Fremin III - K5TR
geoiii@kkn.net
http://www.kkn.net/~k5tr
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