Herb,
Good to see you back in the ranks....and making interesting comments
I used to think like you, but believe me its operator.. N5TJ from here won
the SSB world wide and made the NOrtth american record, definitevely beating
KP2A's record made by Jose in North America and believe me Jose is a supperb
operator... KP2A was the best station in NA in terms of location. So as you
can see operators make the difference, stations and DX locations help a lot.
Just look at K0RF scores in the past.
I guess that what you are saying is that any operator can make a top ten
score from VI...but to win its takes something more.
As per the difference between KP4 and KP2. well let me tell you its been
much harder to get PR in six bands than the VI..
Felipe
NP4Z/KP3Z
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb Schoenbohm" <herbs@vitelcom.net>
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:55 PM
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 11, Issue 62
>
>
> >The place to go is definately KP2 or KV4, not KP4. Not only is it rarer
than KP4 but I have a QTH ready for anyone who wants to use it. Chip
Margelli K7JA back in the 70's won both first place scores in the the Phone
and CW sections from my QTH using a FT-101E in the same year. I don't think
that feat has ever been duplicated.
> >
>
> 73
>
> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:30 -0500
> >From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> >To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >Subject: [CQ-Contest] to KP4 or not KP4
> >Message-ID: <3FC02B3E.2060800@tampabay.rr.com>
> >In-Reply-To: <20031122161702.F1FBB31A594@dayton.akorn.net>
> >References: <20031122161702.F1FBB31A594@dayton.akorn.net>
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> >
> >More recently, may I remind you all that K1TO won SS CW from lowly South
> >Florida, edging out KE3Q at WP3R... seem to remember in the process he
> >set a QSO record there, too!
> >
> >The "just go to KP4 if you wanna win SS thing" is a bit overplayed -
> >seem to remember seeing it on this reflector several times over the
> >years... sure, you will get a spot in the top ten even if you are a
> >marginal operator - but - you are not guaranteed a win...
> >
> >The excellent article by K4VX years ago about the operator who has
> >prepared for that one special weekend when he has the propagation
> >advantage sticks with me - we have all experienced times when we have
> >beat out a KC1XX in a pileup, even though we have less hardware than
> >Matt's aqwesome station does - are those not the sweetest types of
> >contesting moments? To me that is the one positive of packet in DX
> >contests - all the big gun multis land on a fresh meat Sunday spot and
> >it is a momentary DXpedition pileup - perhaps this a measuring stick
> >thing but it is joyous getting in and out before the mega stacks.
> >
> >When that shot comes and you are in the catbird seat it will not just be
> >that you have propagation alone - because your competitor knows the
> >tricks of the trade to equalize the offsetting problem or at least
> >minimize it...
> >
> >If you have focus and studied you will make the best of your sitiuation
> >and ya know - you might win... If you are just someone who talks or
> >sends fast and is in an advantageous QTH you have no guarantee of
> >winning, don't think so? Ask the OH group who sent container loads of
> >hardware to PJ9 and did not win the world!
> >
> >Being the rare KP4 who everyone needs with that excellent signal form
> >the WP3R station must be sweet - I am sure there are several here on
> >this reflector who could have thier arms twisted to pilot it for SS,
> >myself included! BUT - if I were to go there I sure as hell would do my
> >homework first!
> >
> >Contesting is more than having a big station and a fast talking/sending
> >operator... or, has someone not been following WRTC :-)
> >
> >Besides, ain't the more interesting phone battle the one for second
> >place in SS SSB this year?
> >
> >Any CW contests coming up?
> >
> >K4OJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 23:19:24 -0500
> >From: "Jim White, K4OJ" <k4oj@tampabay.rr.com>
> >To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >Subject: [CQ-Contest] N3OC e-mail address
> >Message-ID: <3FC0354C.9000504@tampabay.rr.com>
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> >
> >Need a current e-mail address for N3OC, the n3oc@wirelessinc.com is
> >bouncing on me....
> >
> >Tnx,
> >
> >Jim, K4OJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 01:31:09 -0600 (CST)
> >From: Zack Widup <w9sz@prairienet.org>
> >To: Bill Turner <wrt@dslextreme.com>
> >Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] several contesting questions
> >Message-ID:
<Pine.GSO.4.10.10311230130170.27039-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
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> >
> >There are PSK31 contests, too! (Whoops, I let another secret out.)
> >
> >73, Zack W9SZ
> >
> >
> >On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Bill Turner wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:16:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00), k1dg@ix.netcom.com
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>They tell me there are RTTY contests.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_________________________________________________________
> >>
> >>Darn. The secret is out. :-)
> >>
> >>--
> >>Bill, W6WRT
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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