>>> Maybe someone else can comment on the relative
>strengths of rigid conduit vs. water pipe.<<
>
>
>I'm not pretending to know the "real" differences between water pipe and
>rigid conduit, however, I did work as an electrician and I can tell you
>it's not easy to bend 1.5" rigid conduit. I seriously doubt that a
>multi-band vertical antenna would pose a problem on a 10' length of the
>stuff.
For the sake of accurate discussion, lets get the circular material
straight (no pun intended): EMT (Electrical Mechanical Tubing) is thinwall
tubing thats bends fairly easily with the proper tools (or wind). Conduit
is pipe that is connected by threaded fittings. It has a heavier wall to
allow for threading and more protective rigidity to the wires inside.
Water pipe is also pipe with approximatly the same dimensions as conduit,
HOWEVER...water pipe is made from different materials based on carrying
requirements. We all know that none of these are intended for mast
material. Having said all that, let me tell you that 3/4" aluminum conduit
is great for making an offset mast to mount a TV rotor on the side of the
tower for small (vhf/uhf) beams.
You may now continue the discusion with the knowledge that you have the
correct terminology available.
73 de Tom, N2GQS
Tom@utd.com
>From jfeustle@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU (Joseph A. Feustle, Jr.) Sat Oct 5 16:32:28
>1996
From: jfeustle@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU (Joseph A. Feustle, Jr.) (Joseph A. Feustle,
Jr.)
Subject: Alpha 91B observation (unfunny)
Message-ID: <01IAA6G6AO6G001MMT@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
I got one of the very first beta test units of the ETO 91B to be released in
the States. It has ALWAYS indicated a full 1500 watts out on the small bar
graph on the front panel. However, when I checked it with my old Heathkit
Watt/SWR meter, it showed between 800 and 900 out. I assumed (that makes an
"ass" out of me but hopefully not out of "u") that the Heathkit had seen
better days and was inaccurate.
Last week, the amplifier returned from ETO after being worked on to fix (1)
a sticking t/r relay (the second one), and a defect in the high voltage
metering system. Upon reassembly, I noticed that the tuning/loading was way
off the presets that I had always used before, as much as 60 units on some
bands. While sticking my T2X back up on the tower this morning, I mentioned
this to my friend and helper N8ABL. He said, "maybe new tubes." Lo and
behold: I cranked it up with the old Heathkit in line and, 1500 on the
Heathkit as well as on the bar graph!
I would recommend, therefore, that anyone with one of these units VERIFY the
actual power output and don't rely on the damned bar graph. I know there
have been lots of rumors about these amplifiers and the parts used in them.
I do NOT want to add to the rumor mill. I just suggest that you might want
to look into this also.
73
J. Feustle, N8AAT
>From wtill@awinc.com (Bill Till - VE5FN) Sat Oct 5 19:54:01 1996
From: wtill@awinc.com (Bill Till - VE5FN) (Bill Till - VE5FN)
Subject: Kenwood Sales Manager
Message-ID: <199610051854.LAA01183@freya.van.hookup.net>
At 07:55 PM 10/4/96 -0800, you wrote:
>At 01:47 PM 10/4/96 -0400, AG7M wrote:
>>Well this whole issue has caused me to decide two things:
>>
>>1. Unsubscribe from this reflector since there is so little exchange of info
>>related to its title. (Trey son unsubscribe me or remind me how)
>>
>>2. Buy that new TS870.
>>
>>Adios,
>
>OK, you can leave the reflector. But when that nasty old fishing boat or
>long haul trucker QRMs SU2MT on 3795 (in a contest, of course) with HIS
>TS-870 you relenquish your right to bitch.
>
> Dan KL7Y
>
>
>
1. Hey Dan, and what do we do if the QRMer is using an ICOM or a Yaesu? Do
we start another nasty story about those companies and trash them??
2. This whole mess shows what can happen when a story gets started,
innocently or otherwise and dozens of us jump onto the bandwagon.
Irreparable harm can be done to undeserving parties and even though
retractions and apologies are published, the harm is done. Let's get the
facts before we reach for our flame guns. (Refer to Art Wallace, KK6XN's,
posting).
3. I'm not voluntarily leaving the reflector. At first I was PO'd by all the
irrelevant junk posted on here (vanity callsign chatter, trashing of
Kenwood, etc. etc.) but now I can't wait to see what side channel will
evolve next. Long live our contest reflector. Where else would I find the
current soapbox topic without subscribing to dozens of groups? I've always
got my delete button if I lose interest (I must admit that it is often used
now).
4. Kudos to Trey for setting this medium up in the first place. Let's try to
keep the discussions relevant, but let us try not to stifle anyone's
expressed opinion.
73
Bill - VE5FN
>From kt4ld@juno.com (Andrew H Lewis) Sat Oct 5 18:06:42 1996
From: kt4ld@juno.com (Andrew H Lewis) (Andrew H Lewis)
Subject: Mailing list & file server <Postmaster@tgv.com>: Mailing list or file
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From: kt4ld@juno.com (Andrew H Lewis)
Ever since I subscribed to this "contest" reflector this is all that I
have heard about. This whole issue was created by a ham in my state
(North Carolina) K5PF (Paul Faulmsbee) who wrote into QST about this.
Apparently, I have received word that he pulled a fast one on us and
"didn't mean any harm" (yeah right!). Please, in my book this issue is
OVER! Since it ain't true why worry about it. Do you actually think that
for one minute that one of the most popular ham radio producers would do
such a thing! That's LUDICROUS! There are hams that work for Kenwood, do
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complain or bicker but this has gotten out of control.
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>From w2up@voicenet.com (Barry Kutner) Sun Oct 6 00:28:31 1996
From: w2up@voicenet.com (Barry Kutner) (Barry Kutner)
Subject: RTTY sprINT
Message-ID: <199610052330.TAA08837@mail3.voicenet.com>
FIRST INTERNET RTTY SPRINT CONTEST
Contest period: 01:00:00Z to 03:00:00Z on October 10, 1996 UTC. This
is Wednesday evening in the USA.
Bands: 40 and 20 meters only (this is a real radio contest, no
internet).
Suggested frequencies are 7070-7100 and 14070-14095.
Max power output: 150 watts at transmitter output connector.
Exchange: Name and state or province or DXCC country (if outside
W/VE).
Call: CQ INT
***The standard sprint QSY rule must be followed. This means that if
you
solict a QSO (ie: with CQ or QRZ), after completing the QSO, you must
QSY at least 1 kHz before calling another station, or 5 kHz before
solicting another QSO.***
Both callsigns must be sent during the exchange. Only one signal at
a
time please and all QSOs are to take place on RTTY. All information
submitted must have been decoded during the contest. The use of post
contest detection or verification techniques or systems is not
allowed.
Also, do not make round robin type QSOs. A round robin QSO is one
where
you should QSY, but instead hang around to work the station who is
QSOing the station you gave the frequency to.
You may work the same station multiple times provided they are
separated
by at least 3 other QSOs in both logs (regardless of band). For
example,
if W2UP works AB5KD, KD must work at least 3 other stations before he
can work UP again. UP must also work 3 stations before working KD
again. Changing bands does not eliminate the three QSO requirement.
The three QSOs must not be dupes themselves.
You must not work the same station or stations using any kind of
schedule
or system. It is the intent of the dupe rule to make sure we don't
run out
of stations to work. It is NOT the intent of this rule for you to
change how
you would operate the contest if dupes were not allowed. If, in the
log
checkers opinion, you have not lived up to the intent of this rule,
your
log will be disqualified!!
Total score is the number of contacts you make. Any QSO found to be
defective in anyway will be removed from BOTH logs (yes, if someone
miscopies your exchange, you won't get credit for the QSO).
Logs must be sent in ASCII format via internet to
barry@w2up.wells.com
within 72 hours of the end of the contest. Figuring out how to send
in your
log on the internet is PART OF THE CONTEST. If you need help, we
will
try to assist the best we can. Using the NAQP contest format in RTTY
by
WF1B is suggested (but the DUPE indicator needs to be ignored, as
appropriate).
Logs must show the band, time, station worked, name received and QTH
received for each QSO. Also, please tell me the name you start the
contest with.
Results will be published on WF1B-RTTY within 2 weeks of the contest.
Decisions of the judging committe are final and arbitrary.
Good luck, tell a friend and HAVE FUN!!
Barry W2UP, e-mail: barry@w2up.wells.com
(Note - credit is given to N6TR for the original rules for the CW
sprINT,
from which these rules were cannabalized)
Operating notes:
Calling CQ INT is the suggested call. Remember that your callsign AND
the
station you are working are part of the exchange. In order to know
whose
frequency it is, for a subsequent caller, the following conventions
are
used in the CW sprINT, and I suggest they be followed, as in these
examples:
W2UP initiates a CQ:
W2UP: CQ INT DE W2UP W2UP K
AB5KD: DE AB5KD
W2UP: AB5KD DE W2UP BARRY PA Note that both callsigns are prior to
the exchange.
AB5KD: W2UP RON TX AB5KD Note that my callsign is sent prior to
the exchange and KD's callsign follows
it. This is to indicate that the freq now
belongs to KD, and UP must QSY. Hopefully
there will be a caller to KD prior to him
sending a CQ.
WF1B: AB5KD DE WF1B WF1B K WF1B tunes by and calls KD, knowing the
freq is now his (by seeing his call last).
W2UP has QSYed looking for someone to call,
or starts another CQ.
AB5KD: WF1B DE AB5KD RON TX KD answers 1B.
WF1B: AB5KD RAY RI WF1B 1B sends exchange and the freq is now
his.
KD goes off to S&P, or CQ on another freq.
Remember, this is a sprint, so keep exchanges short, and repeats to a
minimum (and needless to say, no RYs!).
There is a CW sprINT this weekend, 0100-0300Z Sunday (Saturday night,
local time). Take a listen and this will make more sense...
--
Barry Kutner, W2UP Internet: w2up@voicenet.com
Newtown, PA FRC alternate: barry@w2up.wells.com
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