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Subject: We have a winner!! -- NOT
From: frenaye@pcnet.com (frenaye@pcnet.com)
Date: Wed Sep 25 00:39:19 1996
        I don't think Gate 2 callsigns are being issued yet.  N46BVO says he 
        received K6GV (a call he used to have), presumably under Gate 1A.
        The YCCC now has W2PV as a club call from an application sent in 
        about 10 days ago under Gate 1A as well (issued Monday).

        73 Tom

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>From mihry@mail.topher.net (michael d. ihry)  Wed Sep 25 00:56:41 1996
From: mihry@mail.topher.net (michael d. ihry) (michael d. ihry)
Subject: sep vhf contest results for ac5ct
Message-ID: <199609242356.SAA26943@mail.topher.net>

here is the ac5ct results for sep vhf contest           

       q's     mults

50mhz  8        2

144    14       3


total  22  x   5  = 110 pts

had fun....crappy bands  


>From WX0B-JTERLESKI@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Jay Terleski)  Wed Sep 25 
>01:01:15 1996
From: WX0B-JTERLESKI@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Jay Terleski) (Jay Terleski)
Subject: Ferrite beads, torroids used for rfi suppression and Baluns, etc.
References: <960924161402_109825360@emout17.mail.aol.com>
Message-ID: <3248764B.5865@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>

W8JITom@aol.com wrote:

> Let's think about that a bit. MEASURED data have proven over and over again
> that 60 1/4 wl radials comes within a dB of a theoretically perfect ground,
> and as length is reduced the NUMBER of radials required to achieve the
> maximum FS for a given length, as well as the field strength, decreases. If
> the radials are made longer, we can use more radials and FS improves. The
> curves are ALWAYS real smooth curves.
> 
> Now suddenly 1/4 wl is the "wrong length", it just happened to be overlooked
> for fifty years in innumerable real world FS measurements.
> 
> 73, Tom


Not wanting to take away from K5iu's excellent work, I would like to explain 
what I saw at 
my QTH since you wanted to dig in a little deeper...HI.

My statement really was meant for the guys like me doing raised radials.  Since 
I cant put 
down ground radials which is really what I would like to do.  Especially since 
I am blessed 
with excellent ground soil around here.  

Dick has a rf current meter in which he measures current at two places on the 
radials and at 
two frequencies.  At least he did over at my QTH.  The results were that only 1 
radial at 
each vertical was working.  Even though I had measured and pruned them last 
year with an 
Autek rf anayzer to be resonant.  

So this is really a case of raised radials, which is different from the work 
you mentioned. 
 If I could, I would put my radial wire under the ground.  But nonetheless I 
think Dick's 
work has value and it showed me that if I want to reduce the high angle 
radiation I had 
better make my radials 1/8 wave each and tune them to resonance with a single 
common 
inductor.  

The reason this works is that the change in impeadance of each radial with 
frequency is a 
much smaller percentage when your dealing with 1/8 wave than 1/4 wave.  Matter 
of fact Dick 
has charts which show that the 1/4 wave case a very small change in freq. or 
even ground 
conditions under the radial can cause its impeadance to very 2000 percent.  
This is why all 
of a sudden it stops acting like a counterpoise.  Moxon indicated this as well.
While the same change at 1/8 wave radials is only 4 or 5 percent.  

As a furthar experiment we tried to make one of the non-current taking radials 
to take power 
by moving it around and putting it in a different location.  Although we could 
change the 
current somewhat it still was at least 10x less than the conducting radial and 
it was very 
sensitive to any change at all.  So if one is trying for balanced raised radial 
currents 
make them either smaller or larger than 1/4 wave.  To take them out of this 
very impeadance 
sensitive area.  

I, like you was amazed that their was so much difference in the actual radial 
currents.  I 
actually told Dick that one of them must have become detatched at the feed 
point.  We went 
up on the roof to check it out and it was intact.

I hope this better describes my previouse statements.  

Jay WX0B


>From divinia@ti.com (Darin Divinia)  Wed Sep 25 01:21:57 1996
From: divinia@ti.com (Darin Divinia) (Darin Divinia)
Subject: Digest Mode
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960925002157.006f77b4@dlep1.itg.ti.com>

How do I get this sucker into digest mode?  

I checked the loading, grounds, etc...no go.

73,
Darin
WG5J
divinia@ti.com


>From vr2bg@asiaonline.net (VS6BrettGraham)  Wed Sep 25 01:36:29 1996
From: vr2bg@asiaonline.net (VS6BrettGraham) (VS6BrettGraham)
Subject: W2VJN de VS96BG...
Message-ID: <199609250036.IAA18126@asiaonline.net>

Sorry guys, but George's address is not up-to-date in WB5VZL's list...
 
I managed to loose your address & can't get back to you about your question
regarding the Asia-Pacific Sprint.  Please drop me a short note so I can
then reply with the answer.
 
73, VS96BrettGraham vr2bg@harts.org.hk

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