AND HAMBURGERS ARE MORE RELIABLE AND EASIER TO DEAL WITH
THANM ETO!!!!
>From ac6ef@usa.pipeline.com (Terry Dunlap) Thu Sep 12 04:30:46 1996
From: ac6ef@usa.pipeline.com (Terry Dunlap) (Terry Dunlap)
Subject: COM3/COM3 Summary - LONG
Message-ID: <199609120330.DAA20723@pipe3.la1.usa.pipeline.com>
Here's a summary of the responses I got regarding adding COM ports to my
Win95 system.
Hope it comes out ok, first time I've tried this.
Thanks again for everyone's help. Everything works great!!
73 de Terry AC6EF
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What I'm doing to interface everything is OS/2 and COM boards I can jumper
for
odd interrupts! The interrupts can be the biggest challenge since many
I/O boards don't even have the pins for the high interrupts. It is
absolutely
essential all interrupts be different - a "feature" of the PC ISA bus.
Darrel KI6VY
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Terry
I use a 16 bit serial/Parallel card under WIN95. It has the ability to
assign almost
any IRQ to any COM at any one of 8 different addresses. My config looks
like this
COM1 IRQ4 (external modem)
COM2 IRQ3 (VHF, PK232-TNC, packet spotting)
COM3 IRQ10 (Radio interface, TS-850)
COM4 IRQ11 (HF, (2nd) PK232-TNC, RTTY)
LPT1 IRQ7 (Printer)
LPT2 IRQ5 (CW keying interface)
MS BUS Mouse configured for IRQ2
Software:
"DXBase" for general logging and everyday packet spotting and DX alert
"TRLog" for contesting.
"WF1B" for RTTY contesting.
freeware RTTY terminal program for general RTTY QSOs
Netscape for modem interface and E-Mail.
I run all of the above "hardware" with out conflicts or lockups. You cant
run all of the software simulatneously because for example; both DXBAse and
TRLog want control of the radio...pretty obvious.
If you want I can get you the name of the card I use, I bought it at FRY's
down in the BAy area.
Watch out for sound blasters and acelerated video cards some of them want
to
take over some of the IRQs for example some of the fancy video cards want
IRQ5
and some sound blasters want IRQ11.I'm sure there are other combos on these
last
two.
Good Luck and I hope this helps...print a summary when you get all the
reponses.
Dave
N0DH
dit dit
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Hi Terry, I'm using win95 with ... pkt tnc on com 1, using PaKet 5.1,
and the mouse on com 2, and the modem on com 3, using Telix, netscape 2.0,
and Internet Explorer 3.0....What I wud suggest is set everything up on
the boards to be .... whatever 1 to com 1 and another to com 2 etc...don't
change one that is doing what it shud...
Then have the "add new hardware" find the new com port .. and the rest
shud be history...This is of course the readers digest explaination...
Please let me know if this jives with your machine...
Cleve - N7IXG
Some things That might help more are ...
Set com 1 irq 4 <--that's normal
set com 2 irq 3 <-- this is too
set com 3 to an unused irq
set com 4 to an unused irq
how do i find out what irq's are being used you say....
Use the program MSD (MicroSoft Diagnostics) and take a look at the irq area
..... good luck ... sorry abt the two parter answer...
Cleve - N7IXG
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Hi Terry..
I've had problems with one of these new generic motherboards with serial
ports onboard. Couldn't get an internal modem to work with both built-in
ports active -- it looked like the built-in ports ate *all* possible IRQs.
(I realize that doesn't sound possible!) Had to disable one internal port
to use the internal modem. Ended up buying an external modem and A/B
switch, though that isn't an answer to your problem.
Maybe you should disable *both* builtin ports & do it all with plug-in
cards? Of course, if you don't have any builtin ports, ignore this
message...
Are you sure doing the Win95 configuration also configures the IRQs on your
ISA board? I know Control Panel in regular Windows doesn't. You have to
use the jumpers or the provided driver disk.
73 Doug W9WI
Douglas E. Smith W9WI/4 desmith@Telalink.Net
1385 Old Clarksville Pike 72777.3143@compuserve.com
Pleasant View, TN 37146-8098
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Terry,
I would be interested in any useful responses you get also.
I haven't purchased one yet but there is a 4-port card by STB - think it
is called '4-COM' but not sure. Looks like it is about $100.
I stuck a second generic 16550 card in my PC and would swear that I have
it configured correctly to non-interfering IRQs but sure can't make the
thing play under Win95. Not a clue as to what I'm doing wrong.
Good luck.
73 de Mike / W8DN
weightdn@bright.net
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Terry, I use a Flexport 42 ISA board which performs beautifully under
DOS/WIN 3.11 and WIN 95 (Which is how I run it). It allows IRQ's from 2-15,
also some non-standard address's. Very flexible and simple to set up. I use
it
with N6TR, Log-EQF, Hostmaster (RTTY-Pactor), Also runs Paket 6.1, and lots
of
other junk. I got mine from HDSS, 1-800-252-9777 for $94.00. It's also
available
from NCA, 1-800-622-1115. The parent company also has a nice web site. They
are
Quickpath. BTW, I run my mouse on COM1, TNC on COM2, modem on COM3, and rig
control (Yaesu FIF-232c) on COM4. Hope this helps - Bob.
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Terry, make sure you are using different addresses as well as different
IRQs when you configure COM3 and 4. That is, both of the new COM ports
need different IRQs and Adrs from anything else. You can check settings by
going to Control Panel > System > Device Manager and scrolling up to the
Computer icon at the top of the list. Double Click on the icon. This area
gives you a bird's eye view of the whole shebang .... IRQs, adrs, etc etc.
Second, you might consider a special I/O board. I am using a Flexport 42
by Quickpath. It fits in an ISA slot. Gives 4 COM ports and 2 enhanced
LPT ports, and a choice of about 10 IRQs and addresses. It works great and
makes it easy to put COM ports at "odd" IRQs and addresses after the
"legacy" cards use up the common settings. The cost is about $75 or maybe
a bit more. I bought mine from some mail order house out in CA .... call
one that specializes in disk drives and I/O stuff. There are other manufs
for the same type card, I am sure. I am using it with a PCI buss Pentium
and it works flawlessly. Cards like this will probably be useful for a
long time because they are so flexible. GL!
--------------- Wes Attaway (N5WA) ----------------
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Hi Terry, I also have the same problem as you. Would you pse forward
a copy of msgs you get with a solution to our problem. Tnx...73...
John K3TEJ
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I went thru this too. I THINK you want a regular board, but better =
check with those who build machines. =20
I got mine already built and the tech who put it together ignored my =
request to put the trackball on COM3 and the internal fax/modem on COM4.
Anyway, to make a short story long, there are not enough interrupts =
(IRQs) and IBM hated hams so COM3 got the same IRQ as COM1 and 2-4, so =
of course they lock up (sometimes). Windows allows you to set the IRQs =
and usually tells you about conflicts. The problem is, of course, now =
the software. Older programs may allow you to set the port but if they =
don't allow you to set the IRQ, you're not going to get the program to =
work. As an example, this is true of my AEA PC Pakratt program.
The latest version (10.04) of NA allows you to set the IRQs in a config =
file. I know it works because that's what I use and I was able to =
verify a software as opposed to a hardware problem vis-a-vis the TNC. I =
am given to understand that CT9 does the same thing thru TSRs for the =
COM ports, and that TR somehow avoids the whole mess. Best to ask on =
ct-user and Tree has a Web site I think where you can ask questions (and =
check out his FAQs)
Hope this helps!
73, Bob AA0CY
<aa0cy@robertwanderer.gardnerville.nv.us>
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I have 2 on board serial ports and use them. Then I added an ISA card that
is capable of four more serial ports (only using 2 of them) with complete
control over IRQ selection. I found that when using plug and play it works
fine for most things but sometimes you need to have a
little control over what is assigned what IRQ's. ie. certain programs cant
select irq15 for com4
So you have to use a little of both... Bought my card at the local COMP-USA
for abt $40. And the serial ports are buffered 16550 UART.
good luck
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Yep, that is all I do. Go into control panel, then into "system", and
select
your com ports from under "device manager". Once selected, the settings
will be
under "resources." I changed my IRQ's in there, and rebooted when it says
to,
and it all functions fine. WIN 95 has a problem with COM4 with some video
cards
(Due to a strange conflict), so you may want to select a non-standard
address
for COM4, if you get the Flexport card. Another nice thing about the
Flexport
that I forgot to mention, is that it has 2 parallel ports also.
If I can help with anything else, just drop a note. 73 de Bob
**********************************************************************
Address: bscott@pla-net.net
Name: Bob Scott
Amateur radio call: KF9YH
Member: National Registry of Emergency Medical Technicians (Paramedic)
The opinions expressed herein are solely those of the author.
**********************************************************************
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Terry
I'm using a FlexPort Model 42 by Quickpath Systems.
Quickpath has a local (to you ) address:
Quickptah Systems Inc.
46723 Fremont Blvd.
Fremont, CA 94538
510-440-7288 or 1-800 995-8828
Dave
N0DH
PS: Have you checked under the START\SETTINGS\CONTROL PANEL\SYSTEM etc to
be
sure that the addressing and IRQs are correct there?
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Using a Byte Runner 4 com port board with all IRQs for the com ports
less than 7. Some programs (NA, and others) won't run with IRQs
greater than 7. LPTs (3 here) don't seem to care as much. You can
share IRQs among LPTs as long as you don't try and use the two LPTs at
the same time. The CT web page has a listing of several boards that
can do this. The Byte Runner guys are in Knoxville, TN I don't have
a number for them
73
Scotty, N4PYD
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Hi Terry,
Run down on the junk:
1- Yaesu FT-1000D on comm with FIF-232, 2- AEA PK-900 on com 3, USR
internal 33,600 Sportster modem on com 4. using Win 95 with a P-133 Triron
II
mother board with 32 M of RAM, Quickpath "Flexport 42" comport board fully
"Win95 compatable" and the support is great, (tell them I sent ya) you can
surk
to www//quickpath.com and see the board but you can buy it for about
$100.00 if
ya shop around.
As for "adding" new ports, go to settings, then add hardware, then tell
windows no you will add manually and select com ports then just follow the
screens, add the port then after go back and adjust the base address and
IRQ
settings. I had a real hard time with AEA equipment ie Logwindows, does
not
like "wierd" IRQ settings, I can not help with CT or the other ones cept
Log-EQF
works well also...
Hope this helps ya...
Mike
Vy 73 de KB9IYS
Mike Halley Ex WB9SLW
NW In. Skywarn #96-006
Porter Co. In. EC
mhalley@adsnet.com
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Duuno of any PnP boards that support the high IRQ's. PnP is off-times =
said to stand for "Plug and Pray".
Your best bet is one of the Four-Port boards on the market. The one =
made by STB (for example) allows the IRQ of each COM Port to be set =
manually with a jumper. These use the more or less standard I/O =
Addresses for COM3 and COM4 - 03E8H and 02E8H. Access is provided to =
IRQ2,3,4,5,10,11,12,15
Another made by Port-Folio has 4 Serial, 1 Parallel, 1Game, 4 FDD, and 2 =
IDE's. This card is set up via software I believe. I know it allows =
access to the high IRQ's, but not which ones.=20
I use a 2 Port card (made by TTC Computer Products of Irving, TX) in =
addition to my 2 on-board ports to support COM3 and COM4. It has DIP =
Switches to set the I/O Addresses, and jumpers to set the IRQ's. Access =
is provided to IRQ2,3,4,5,10,11,12,15. Sorry, I don't know where to buy =
one of these today.
To get 4 completely independent Serial Ports to work, COM3 and COM4 must =
be on completely separate I/O Address and IRQ's from COM1 and COM2. On =
most standard 2-Port ISA boards, COM1 and COM3 share IRQ4 --- and =
COM2 and COM4 share IRQ3. >>> I suspect that is your problem <<<< .
I used only one of the Ports on my TTC card (COM3 is an Internal Modem). =
As I remember, I put it on 03E8H and IRQ5 and WIN95 detected a new COM3 =
port.
The STB, Port-Folio, and my TTC all use 16550 UARTS - which is another =
must to operate fast ports and not drop characters.
CT and DXBase support IRQ's besides the conventional COM1 and COM2. For =
a while I had my IC-781 on 02E8H - IRQ10 in both CT and Dxbase. I =
>>>think<<< NA supports other IRQ's as well. =20
73 ---> Dave, W9ZRX
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Terry,
I'm not a computer person and I'm going from memory but: I purchased a
new PC last weekend with Windows 95 installed. I have added COM 3 and 4
to the system. Start by going to the Control Panel. Double click New
Hardware -- and I think I simply selected the default of the following
screens -- and '95 will add COM 3. Shut down the PC, reboot and you'll see
COM 3 has been added. Then follow the same procedure and it'll add COM 4.
It will give you the IRQs to use also. It's really very easy. I have both
TR and CT. I installed both and they seem to run OK but I have not
interfaced
the PC and the rig. I learned last night that my interface is no good. I
had
a lightning strike in the spring that took out the old PC and obviously got
the
interface also. Anyway, I hope this helps. A NEC Customer Support person
walked me through the process the first time (Adding COM 3) and it was
easy.
73,
- Jay/K4OGG
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I let the system detect it.... Seems to me that once I had to change
it manually. It was ait of a pain to get it working but once I did..just
leave it alone...
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Terry:
I'd suggest an ISA board, since the PnP can be difficult if they don't
configure properly. My suggest is to look at control panel/system, and
then view by connection to make sure you are using available IRQs. You
probably need boards that will allow you to set high IRQs. Try the
boards from SIG.
Beryl
Beryl D. Simonson KE3GA
H(610) 664-0549 bsimonson@comcastpc.com
O(215) 765-4600 bsimonson@slfcpa.com
Frankford Radio Club
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Hi from Dublin,
I am doing the same thing here so if
you get any good info would you pleas
pass it on to me....many thanks....
Cheers ...Tony EI2GX
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Dear friend,
i have the some problem,
if you will know some things about this please forward me.
Thanks from Giancarlo T77WI
I have tried many times with many system crashes.
My serial port have the hardware configurable IRQs but Win 95 don't
likes these. The IRQ n0 2 is used for automatic IRQ checking and is
impossible to use. This for my experience of course.
Again 73
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Terry
Yes . I would like to see a summary of your responses. Thank you.
Cheers from down under,
John, VK5AI
>From kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale Martin) Thu Sep 12 05:48:16 1996
From: kg5u@hal-pc.org (Dale Martin) (Dale Martin)
Subject: ZD8Z Web Site
Message-ID: <01BBA03B.B8595F00@pm0-54.hal-pc.org>
And it's so clean, too!
dale
kg5u
----------
From: Trey Garlough[SMTP:trey@cisco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 1996 16:02 PM
To: cq-contest@tgv.com
Subject: Re: ZD8Z Web Site
> >I realize that it's now the "in thing to do", i.e., have your very own web
> >site to publicize your upcoming contest operation. Unfortunately we ZD8's
> >are few in number, have no PhD's resident on our staff, and definitely
> >represent a low budget operation - so we don't have a web site!
>
> Well, now you do.
>
> Go to Contesting On-line (http://www.contesting.com) and check out ZD8Z in
> the Contest Station links. (Be prepared to expand your imagination.)
Now there's a web site that truly "cuts the mustard!"
--Trey, WN4KKN
>From floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) Sun Sep 8 17:56:15 1996
From: floydjr@Interpath.com (Jimmy R. Floyd) (Jimmy R. Floyd)
Subject: NA Sprint CW 96 Scores
Message-ID: <2.2.16.19960908165615.0b17478c@interpath.com>
NA SPRINT CW 96
Raw Scores
Compiled by
>> WA4ZXA <<
floydjr@interpath.com
Date Posted: 09/08/96
CALL SCORE QSO'S MULTIS
________________________________________________________________________
High Power
K1KI 13,995 311 45
KM9P 13,588 318 41
K5ZD 13,322 303 44
N4ZZ 12,330 274 45
WB0O 12,012 273 44
N6ZZ 11,700 260 43
KZ2S (@N2NU) 11,685 285 41
N3BB 11,424 272 42
N5FG (WQ5L) 11,193 273 41
KM0L 10,209 249 41
NA5Q 10,000 250 40
KJ6HO (K6OY) 9,618 229 42
N0AX 9,331 217 43
WR3O 6,156 164 37
W9WI 4,070 110 37
Low Power
NM5M 12,700 282 45
KC6CNV 10,492 244 43
KY2P 7,840 196 40
AA4GA 7,462 182 40
N0DH 4,935 141 35
WD4AHZ 4,800 150 32
WB0OLA 2,160 72 30
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you did not state what power you were running I put you in High Power.
If that is wrong just emial me and I will change it.
73's Jim
**********************************************************
* Jimmy R. Floyd (Jim) Thomasville, NC *
* *
* Amateur Call: >> WA4ZXA << *
* Packet Node: >> N4ZC << *
* Internet Address: >> floydjr@interpath.com << *
**********************************************************
>From ki4hn@nando.net (ki4hn) Thu Sep 12 13:02:16 1996
From: ki4hn@nando.net (ki4hn) (ki4hn)
Subject: Vanity Calls
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960912075835.5310A-100000@bessel.nando.net>
On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, R. W. Schuck wrote:
> Any chance of getting an update of your "to date" listing before Gate 2
> opens?
>
> Tks es 73
>
> Randy/AA8TU
I live in the Raleigh, NC area where Hurricane Fran went through last
week. My house has been without power or water until yesterday which
is why the vanity call info on my web page has not been updated. I
have been able to do some e-mail from work, but I need my home system
to do the vanity calls. I will be getting the data back up-to-date
in the next few days. Sorry for the delays.
73,
Jim KI4HN
ki4hn@nando.net
http://www.webbuild.com/~ki4hn
>From lare@worldnet.att.net (Larry Eckenrode) Thu Sep 12 14:03:57 1996
From: lare@worldnet.att.net (Larry Eckenrode) (Larry Eckenrode)
Subject: FRC HOME PAGE has moved!!
Message-ID: <32380A3D.5FA2@worldnet.att.net>
The Frankford Radio Club's Home Page has moved.
Our new address is
http://www.frc-contest.org
Please update your bookmarks and links.
Thank You,
Larry -KD2NT
>From radio@UDel.Edu (Robert Penneys) Thu Sep 12 14:07:48 1996
From: radio@UDel.Edu (Robert Penneys) (Robert Penneys)
Subject: >> Stn(s) wanted for CQWW <<
Message-ID: <199609121307.JAA05234@copland.udel.edu>
I want to single op or SOA on CQWW, both phone and CW, and borrow the best
stations possible which may be available.
I cannot take off much time and want to arrive Friday and return Sunday night
if possible.
If you have a good station which is ready to roll and not currently booked,
please let me know.
Tnx, Bob WN3K Frankford Radio Club
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