> Phil K6EID <phil.finkle@sid.net> wrote:
> > ....
> > >160 has 2 full megahertz of bandwidth.
> >
> N0TH wrote:
> > UHH last time I checked it was 1.2MHZ (1.8 to 2.0)
2.0 MHz = 2,000,000 Hz
1.8 MHz = 1,800,000 Hz
2.0Mhz - 1.8 Mhz = 2,000,000 - 1,800,000 = 200,000 Hz = 0.2 MHz
(I've done it without a dask calculator, did both of you use ol' pentium
chips?????
73 and cu in CQWW CW test
Waldek DL7ANQ && SO6ANQ
>From RUSSELL S. RINN" <miltex@bga.com Thu Nov 23 09:58:27 1995
From: RUSSELL S. RINN" <miltex@bga.com (RUSSELL S. RINN)
Subject: Outlawing Dueling CQs in SS
Message-ID: <199511230958.DAA23152@zoom.bga.com>
Regarding "outlawing duelling CQ's" here's my take:
First let me explain my history w/2 radios and how I do it.
I've now used 2 radios in 3 contests.
My first try was in the August NAQP SSB - solely S&P on the 2nd radio.
In the '95 CQWW SSB I started CQing on 2 freq's (not necessarily
different bands) and I devoted my attention to the radio that got an answer,
ie. stopped CQing on the other radio while copying an exchange.
I suppose I could have easily lost a frequency, but the exchange was so short
the whole thing was pretty quick. I don't recall if I was ever challenged
for a freq. If it had come up and I wasn't able to retain both freq's
I would fight for the most valuable, eg. stay on 15m and run JA's and S&P
VK's on another 10m freq. later.
In SS SSB I took the technique a little further and CQ'd on 2 freq's and,
when called, I would copy the exchange on Radio X, type it into the computer
and CQ on Radio Y at the same time. This worked pretty well. When I got a
call, I gave my exchange AFAP (As Fast As Possible) on Radio X and then CQ'd
on Radio Y and copied the exchange until it was time to say "Thanks QRZ" and
start flipping the toggle switches really fast again. The hardest thing was
making sure I logged the Q's on the correct band.
I'm guessing this is pretty standard 2 radio operation. This was just new
to me.
**I feel this method DID NOT leave alot of "dead air" thus minimizing the
chance of someone thinking the freq was unused. Both freq's were either
working someone or CQing or both.**
Incidentally, I CANNOT transmit simultaneously on 2 freq's as my box does
not allow that. That would be cheating.
The rates were decent like this but it was a pretty taxing procedure. I
think the max I did this was about an hour at a time. I believe my high
rate doing this was 85 per hour Sunday evening.
I didn't have DVP so it took a little extra concentration but it became
second nature pretty quick.
In SS it was critical to give the exchange AFAP and start CQing again on
the other radio. It was kinda nerve racking listening to a station
calling in on the other radio while the guy you were working needed the
exhange format explained! In a circumstance like that I would flip over
and ask the other station to QRX. Sometimes they would, most of the time
they didn't. I probably wouldn't either (not for South Texas anyway).
There are tradeoffs to be considered so you just have to weigh them at any
given time. Some of these are:
-I could lose a frequency.
-Perhaps if I devoted all my attention to a single freq I could achieve rate
equal to the 2 freq scheme.
-It's tiring.
-It's easier to make logging mistakes.
Bottom Line...
I don't feel this type of operation should be outlawed. It's a skill. I
know lots of guys who can copy code faster than me, but that is a skill and
they shouldn't be handicapped for it. If it's done efficiently there is
little room for frequency battles (you should hear any station asking if the
frequency is in use).
I also don't agree that everyone doing this is a big gun with an ego
problem. I used a similar technique 15 years ago from my " Tribander at
40' " station with external VFO's or the A/B switch of my TS930. It's
still a very manual operation who's effectiveness is primarily determined
by the operator. Some stations may do better without it than some do with
it.
Finally, I don't think I'm schizo. And I don't either.
73 and GL in CQWW CW, Russ--
Russell Rinn
AA5RB
miltex@bga.com
>From Robert Orehoci - TIMES <rorehoci@public.srce.hr> Thu Nov 23 09:25:42 1995
From: Robert Orehoci - TIMES <rorehoci@public.srce.hr> (Robert Orehoci - TIMES)
Subject: >>>>> 9A1A <<<<<
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951123102347.8249A-100000@jagor.srce.hr>
Announcement M/M effort of Croatian DX Club in=20
CQWW CW 1995 contest. Please look for us on
1826, 3526, 7026, 14026, 21026, 28026 plus/minus
2 kHz. More information you can get from
Robert 9A3GW <rorehoci@public.srce.hr> .
Here is result which I promissed to give you. Hope that
CW part will be much better ...
CQ WORLD WIDE DX CONTEST -- 1995
Call: 9A1A Country: Croatia
Mode: SSB Category: Multi Multi
BAND QSO QSO PTS PTS/QSO ZONES COUNTRIES
160 584 632 1.08 11 59
80 1480 1988 1.34 28 106
40 2332 3846 1.65 37 138
20 2832 6338 2.24 40 159
15 2482 6193 2.50 37 118
10 464 757 1.63 22 72
---------------------------------------------------
Totals 10174 19754 1.94 175 652 =3D> 16,336,558
Croatian DX Club - CDXC 9A1A
P. O. Box 108
Zagreb, C R O A T I A, 10001
=0C
+Rate Sheet Ctl F9 to Toggle----------------------+
=A6 =A6
=A6520................................................=A6
=A6480 =A6
=A6440 =A6
=A6400 =A6=A6 =A6
=A6360...........=A6=A6.=A6=A6................................=A6
=A6320 =A6=A6 =A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =
=A6
=A6280=A6=A6=A6 =A6=A6 =A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =A6 =
=A6=A6=A6 =A6
=A6240=A6=A6=A6 =A6=A6 =A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =
=A6 =A6=A6=A6 =A6
=A6200=A6=A6=A6..=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6............=
..=A6=A6..=A6=A6=A6=A6.......=A6
=A6160=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =
=A6=A6=A6 =A6=A6=A6 =A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =A6
=A6120=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =A6 =
=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =A6
=A680 =A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=
=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6 =A6
=A640 =A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=
=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=A6=
=A6=A6=A6
=A6 000000000011111111112222000000000011111111112222=A6
=A6 012345678901234567890123012345678901234567890123=A6
+---------------------------------------------------+
BREAKDOWN QSO/mults 9A1A CQ WORLD WIDE DX CONTEST Multi Multi
HOUR 160 80 40 20 15 10 HR TOT CUM TO=
T =20
0 48/21 164/40 107/32 ..... ..... ..... 319/93 319/93=
=20
1 51/7 137/11 92/10 24/16 . . 304/44 623/13=
7
2 70/8 135/8 63/5 20/11 . . 288/32 911/16=
9
3 33/5 91/9 51/15 15/6 . . 190/35 1101/20=
4
4 43/5 89/6 52/7 5/4 . . 189/22 1290/22=
6
5 31/1 74/4 54/2 64/4 . . 223/11 1513/23=
7
6 13/2 51/2 91/10 112/23 75/15 . 342/52 1855/28=
9
7 . 8/0 98/4 121/6 111/9 8/7 346/26 2201/31=
5
8 ..... ..... 66/2 72/6 82/16 ..... 220/24 2421/33=
9
9 . . 64/2 126/7 88/15 2/2 280/26 2701/36=
5
10 . . 54/0 143/11 110/14 11/6 318/31 3019/39=
6
11 . . 61/0 153/11 118/12 62/11 394/34 3413/43=
0
12 . . 55/1 160/8 140/4 44/7 399/20 3812/45=
0
13 . 6/0 62/0 134/6 149/3 7/4 358/13 4170/46=
3
14 . 18/2 65/5 95/2 204/4 34/14 416/27 4586/49=
0
15 . 17/3 48/2 110/5 197/2 30/1 402/13 4988/50=
3
16 11/0 42/1 64/7 75/5 125/4 31/0 348/17 5336/52=
0
17 33/0 48/0 31/2 70/2 55/2 5/1 242/7 5578/52=
7
18 18/0 60/1 60/2 110/5 . . 248/8 5826/53=
5
19 19/0 43/2 56/0 78/2 . . 196/4 6022/53=
9
20 22/0 31/1 34/2 12/3 . . 99/6 6121/54=
5
21 43/1 35/1 69/2 7/2 . . 154/6 6275/55=
1
22 14/1 45/2 55/2 . . . 114/5 6389/55=
6
23 19/2 36/1 57/1 . . . 112/4 6501/56=
0
0 15/0 19/1 62/0 ..... ..... ..... 96/1 6597/56=
1
1 12/0 19/1 54/0 . . . 85/1 6682/56=
2
2 11/1 28/1 18/0 . . . 57/2 6739/56=
4
3 7/1 6/0 14/3 16/1 . . 43/5 6782/56=
9
4 7/0 14/1 16/2 13/1 . . 50/4 6832/57=
3
5 6/1 24/1 29/6 20/2 107/0 . 186/10 7018/58=
3
6 . 10/2 25/1 43/1 109/0 2/1 189/5 7207/58=
8
7 . 7/0 13/0 33/0 97/0 14/2 164/2 7371/59=
0
8 ..... ..... 39/0 52/0 60/0 6/1 157/1 7528/59=
1
9 . . 59/0 72/0 55/2 28/7 214/9 7742/60=
0
10 . . 53/1 79/0 86/1 78/1 296/3 8038/60=
3
11 . 1/0 4/1 67/1 63/2 28/1 163/5 8201/60=
8
12 . 3/0 43/0 35/1 56/1 11/2 148/4 8349/61=
2
13 . 13/0 49/2 52/2 97/3 9/1 220/8 8569/62=
0
14 . 6/1 28/1 123/1 129/3 17/2 303/8 8872/62=
8
15 . 8/0 41/1 124/1 111/4 11/0 295/6 9167/63=
4
16 ..... 40/1 48/3 135/3 41/5 17/2 281/14 9448/64=
8
17 . 20/0 42/0 90/1 14/3 9/0 175/4 9623/65=
2
18 6/0 15/0 32/1 75/1 3/0 . 131/2 9754/65=
4
19 5/1 24/1 22/3 63/1 . . 114/6 9868/66=
0
20 2/0 35/1 26/0 28/2 . . 91/3 9959/66=
3
21 21/1 16/2 20/1 6/0 . . 63/4 10022/66=
7
22 12/1 22/1 42/2 . . . 76/4 10098/67=
1
23 12/0 20/1 44/0 . . . 76/1 10174/67=
2
DAY1 468/53 1130/94 1509/115 1706/145 1454/100 234/53 ..... 6501/56=
0
DAY2 116/6 350/15 823/28 1126/19 1028/24 230/20 . 3673/11=
2
TOT 584/59 1480/109 2332/143 2832/164 2482/124 464/73 . 10174/67=
2
=0CBREAKDOWN in mins/QSO's per hr 9A1A CQ WORLD WIDE DX CONTEST Multi Mu=
lti
HOUR 160 80 40 20 15 10 HR TOT CUM TOT=
=20
0 8/360 33/298 19/338 ..... ..... ..... 60/319 60/31=
9
1 12/255 28/294 17/325 3/480 . . 60/304 120/31=
2
2 12/350 25/324 14/270 9/133 . . 60/288 180/30=
4
3 13/152 26/210 15/204 6/150 . . 60/190 240/27=
5
4 14/184 28/191 17/184 1/300 . . 60/189 300/25=
8
5 8/233 22/202 17/191 13/295 . . 60/223 360/25=
2
6 3/260 12/255 19/287 14/480 12/375 . 60/342 420/26=
5
7 . 2/240 14/420 24/302 19/351 1/480 60/346 480/27=
5
8 ..... ..... 25/158 17/254 18/273 ..... 60/220 540/26=
9
9 . . 12/320 29/261 19/278 . 60/280 600/27=
0
10 . . 11/295 29/296 18/367 2/330 60/318 660/27=
4
11 . . 8/458 25/367 17/416 10/372 60/394 720/28=
4
12 . . 10/330 22/436 20/420 8/330 60/399 780/29=
3
13 . . 8/465 24/335 27/331 1/420 60/358 840/29=
8
14 . 1/1080 10/390 13/438 33/371 3/680 60/416 900/30=
6
15 . 3/340 7/411 20/330 25/473 5/360 60/402 960/31=
2
16 2/330 8/315 11/349 11/409 21/357 7/266 60/348 1020/31=
4
17 8/248 9/320 10/186 20/210 13/254 . 60/242 1080/31=
0
18 2/540 11/327 14/257 33/200 . . 60/248 1140/30=
7
19 7/163 20/129 16/210 17/275 . . 60/196 1200/30=
1
20 14/94 27/69 12/170 7/103 . . 60/99 1260/29=
1
21 24/107 12/175 23/180 1/420 . . 60/154 1320/28=
5
22 3/280 32/84 25/132 . . . 60/114 1380/27=
8
23 15/76 14/154 32/107 . . . 61/110 1441/27=
1
0 6/150 12/95 41/91 ..... ..... ..... 59/98 1500/26=
4
1 10/72 13/88 37/88 . . . 60/85 1560/25=
7
2 12/55 31/54 18/60 . . . 61/56 1621/24=
9
3 8/53 9/40 18/47 24/40 . . 59/44 1680/24=
2
4 13/32 15/56 18/53 14/56 . . 60/50 1740/23=
6
5 1/360 9/160 13/134 5/240 32/201 . 60/186 1800/23=
4
6 . 5/120 7/214 14/184 34/192 . 60/189 1860/23=
2
7 . 3/140 3/260 7/283 41/142 6/140 60/164 1920/23=
0
8 ..... ..... 18/130 14/223 24/150 4/90 60/157 1980/22=
8
9 . . 9/393 27/160 18/183 6/280 60/214 2040/22=
8
10 . . 15/212 9/527 17/304 19/246 60/296 2100/23=
0
11 . 1/60 . 26/155 27/140 6/280 60/163 2160/22=
8
12 . . 17/152 15/140 20/168 8/83 60/148 2220/22=
6
13 . 6/130 16/184 13/240 23/253 2/270 60/220 2280/22=
5
14 . 1/360 3/560 27/273 26/298 3/340 60/303 2340/22=
7
15 . 2/240 9/273 30/248 16/416 3/220 60/295 2400/22=
9
16 ..... 12/200 16/180 24/338 6/410 2/510 60/281 2460/23=
0
17 . 7/171 11/229 33/164 5/168 4/135 60/175 2520/22=
9
18 5/72 6/150 11/175 37/122 1/180 . 60/131 2580/22=
7
19 2/150 14/103 8/165 36/105 . . 60/114 2640/22=
4
20 3/40 19/111 15/104 23/73 . . 60/91 2700/22=
1
21 23/55 19/51 13/92 5/72 . . 60/63 2760/21=
8
22 14/51 16/83 30/84 . . . 60/76 2820/21=
5
23 6/120 25/48 28/94 . . . 59/77 2879/21=
2
DAY1 2.4/194 5.2/217 6.1/247 5.6/303 4.0/360 0.6/379 ..... 24.0/27=
1
DAY2 1.7/68 3.8/93 6.2/132 6.4/176 4.8/213 1.0/219 . 24.0/15=
3
TOT 4.1/141 9.0/165 12.3/189 12.0/236 8.9/280 1.7/278 . 48.0/21=
2=0C
BREAKDOWN in kilo-points by hr 9A1A CQ WORLD WIDE DX CONTEST Multi Multi
HOUR 160 80 40 20 15 10 HR TOT CUM TOT=
=20
0 278 526 550 ..... ..... ..... 1354 1354 =
=20
1 91 212 200 252 . . 756 2110 =
=20
2 140 207 105 129 . . 582 2692 =
=20
3 64 178 189 104 . . 535 3227 =
=20
4 67 149 105 74 . . 394 3621 =
=20
5 23 119 67 124 . . 333 3954 =
=20
6 25 43 153 363 354 . 938 4892 =
=20
7 . 3 92 132 228 114 570 5462 =
=20
8 ..... ..... 47 109 251 ..... 407 5869 =
=20
9 . . 46 171 258 . 516 6385 =
=20
10 . . 22 240 226 75 563 6948 =
=20
11 . . 25 271 240 156 692 7640 =
=20
12 . . 33 258 225 110 626 8266 =
=20
13 . . 26 212 200 55 495 8761 =
=20
14 . 28 113 100 316 217 774 9535 =
=20
15 . 59 68 167 259 53 605 10140 =
=20
16 5 42 140 128 197 37 547 10687 =
=20
17 17 21 58 102 91 . 316 11003 =
=20
18 7 37 57 183 . . 284 11287 =
=20
19 8 44 38 109 . . 199 11486 =
=20
20 11 36 43 52 . . 141 11627 =
=20
21 28 28 84 26 . . 167 11794 =
=20
22 27 50 64 . . . 142 11936 =
=20
23 38 27 88 . . . 153 12089 =
=20
0 7 19 77 ..... ..... ..... 103 12192 =
=20
1 5 32 65 . . . 102 12294 =
=20
2 14 30 20 . . . 64 12358 =
=20
3 23 3 45 21 . . 94 12452 =
=20
4 4 16 39 21 . . 80 12532 =
=20
5 15 33 94 33 132 . 307 12839 =
=20
6 . 26 21 51 131 . 251 13090 =
=20
7 . 3 5 28 112 40 188 13278 =
=20
8 ..... ..... 16 38 59 13 126 13404 =
=20
9 . . 24 45 60 92 222 13626 =
=20
10 . . 32 53 57 43 183 13809 =
=20
11 . 0 . 72 53 22 160 13969 =
=20
12 . . 18 43 51 26 139 14108 =
=20
13 . 5 71 74 152 17 318 14427 =
=20
14 . 13 29 143 183 31 399 14826 =
=20
15 . 3 36 160 175 11 385 15211 =
=20
16 ..... 40 54 193 96 39 421 15632 =
=20
17 . 9 25 117 45 11 206 15838 =
=20
18 2 6 26 101 3 . 138 15977 =
=20
19 12 31 65 84 . . 191 16168 =
=20
20 1 26 20 49 . . 96 16264 =
=20
21 19 28 26 4 . . 77 16341 =
=20
22 15 19 81 . . . 114 16456 =
=20
23 6 19 54 . . . 79 16534 =
=20
DAY1 829 1812 2415 3305 2844 884 ..... 12089 =
=20
DAY2 124 363 953 1331 1307 368 . 4445 =
=20
TOT 953 2175 3368 4636 4151 1251 . =20
16534 =0C
>From andre.sampaio@mandic.com.br (ANDRE SAMPAIO) Thu Nov 23 10:26:00 1995
From: andre.sampaio@mandic.com.br (ANDRE SAMPAIO) (ANDRE SAMPAIO)
Subject: PY0FF CQWWCW
References: <199510240235.AAB28793@merlim.mandic.com.br>
Message-ID: <8B581FA.012C0398D3.uuout@mandic.com.br>
HI guys
Although in the middle of nowhere (PY0FF) we do have an internet
connection.
Please don't forget to check 160 between 2330z and 0130 and then at
the hour.
Everything is ready for the big event and we hope to log you all
from Fernando de Noronha Island.
73
Jose & Andre CT1BOH QRV Single Op All Band @ PY0FF
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>From Bill Turner <wrt@eskimo.com> Thu Nov 23 12:20:07 1995
From: Bill Turner <wrt@eskimo.com> (Bill Turner)
Subject: The real meaning of variable bandwidth
Message-ID: <199511231220.EAA24950@mail.eskimo.com>
160 meters seems to be unusually hard to pin down as to size:
One member of the contest fraternity sez
>160 has 2 full megahertz of bandwidth.
While another observes
>UHH last time I checked it was 1.2MHZ (1.8 to 2.0)
If there are other opinions, please post
them to me and I will summarize. :-)
73, Bill W7LZP
wrt@eskimo.com
>From Kurt Pauer <0006743923@mcimail.com> Thu Nov 23 12:26:00 1995
From: Kurt Pauer <0006743923@mcimail.com> (Kurt Pauer)
Subject: ARRL 160 Test DX Window
Message-ID: <45951123122654/0006743923ND3EM@MCIMAIL.COM>
The DX Window in the ARRL 160 Meter Contest
Before this year, the DX window (to be used for intercontinental
QSO's only) was 1830-1850 kHz. As was pointed out on another message,
most 160 meter antennas only have a maximum useful bandwidth of 50 kHz.
Effectively, this window represented about 40% of the usable 160 meter
band and the window was largely ignored. The CAC recommended to the
Awards Committee (the group that makes the rules) that the window be
reduced to 5 kHz in an effort to make it realistic. The Awards Committee
chose 1830-1835 kHz as the window where US stations should not park
and call CQ. The intent for the use of the window is to give a place
for intercontinental contacts, a sanctuary from CQing by US stations
so that stations on other continents can be heard by more US stations.
There is no implied restriction in the window for US stations answering
CQ's from another continent. The word "intercontinental" would
imply that the contact is between North America and another continent.
So, a Caribbean station might be construed to be in North America
and possibly restricted from using the window. This was never discussed
in our CAC debates and I don't have an answer.
Bottom line:
1) US stations should not call CQ between 1830 and 1835 kHz.
2) US stations may answer CQ's from stations on other continents
within the window.
3) DX stations should consider listening outside the window to
keep down QRM and be heard by more US stations.
4) DX stations within North America should consider operating
outside the window. (Subject to controversy.)
My appeal is to conscientiously try to observe the DX window. Five
kHz is only a small portion of the band. I can guarantee you that no
one will be disqualified for operating there, but the CQ-Contest Reflector
is a powerful peer pressure tool and no one likes to be caught doing
N
~something that is either illegal or unethical. As my favorite muscle men,
Hans and Franz, would say, "Hear me now und believe me later."
Kurt Pauer, W1PH
CAC, New England Division
>From w7ni@teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) Thu Nov 23 12:38:02 1995
From: w7ni@teleport.com (Stan Griffiths) (Stan Griffiths)
Subject: 160 Meter DX Window
Message-ID: <199511231238.EAA15804@desiree.teleport.com>
>Phil K6EID <phil.finkle@sid.net> wrote:
>>160 has 2 full megahertz of bandwidth.
And N0DH said
>UHH last time I checked it was 1.2MHZ (1.8 to 2.0)
No wonder we have such a huge National debt. We forgot how to add and subtract.
How many votes for, "The 160 band is 200 KHz (0.2 MHz) wide"?
Stan W7NI@teleport.com
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