Folks
Interesting discussion. I started with CT for ssb and cw and when I started
rtty it was RTTY by. WF1B (I THINK) but I swore by that software
Every couple years I assess software and hardware and will do upgrades as
needed. For quite some time I resisted moving to windows for logging but
once it became clear that DOS had gone the way of dinasours it was WriteLog
that I went with.
On two different occasions I purchased Wintest but to me at the time it
didn't seem to be a true windows interface as many windows couldn't
benresized so after a while I moved back to WL. I also moved to N1MM but I
always seemed to get configuration problems and moved right back to WL.
I am in the process of moving from Yaesu rigs to Flex 6x00 and it seems
like N1MM is the preferred choice in the Flex community so I will try both
and see which works better for me. But I am biased towards WL while
accepting that N1MM seems to be favoured by the software guru's at Flex
(Not sure I agree with their strategy of favouring or appearing to favour
one software environment over another but I think their major test case is
K9CT and he's an N1MM user)
After about 20 years running WL the.main thing I like is that no matter the
mode things are still familiar. In fact in the last 5 years or so I started
using it as my day to day logger - I think there was a time when the
messages were shared between cw and rtty but when that changed it became my
logger for casual QSOs.
I like the file format and the ease of exporting the cabrillo and adif
formats for contest submission and master loggers/databases.
In more recent.times I have found the duelling cq script/macro very very
useful and use it pretty much as standard.
Many of us will never use the features of any one logger. I certainly
always learn something new by seeing what others are doing with re-mapping
keys or using scripts or macros like W2SC.
I do believe though that the primary attraction of N1MM is it's no-cost. As
a result many casual contesters will use N1MM and then the M/S and M/M may
have.moved to it because that was what the.majority of their ops knew. The
great ops I always argue will still win with whatever software and any
decent rig.
I guess we should keep on having fun with or without WL.
73's Dean - 8P2K / 8P6SH
Sent from my BLU Vivo XL
On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 4:36 PM Ed Muns <ed@w0yk.com wrote:
> In Win-Test and DXlog, type 'NOESM' in the call sign entry window to
> disable
> ESM. Type 'ESM' to enable it. When disabled, there are no surprises.
> Just
> press the Fn message key you want at any given time. All Enter does is log
> the QSO.
>
> A different ESM script can be written and substituted for the default one.
> The ESM behavior can be whatever you want, including none. There is one
> detail in the default Win-Test ESM script that I dislike, so I modified it
> to my preference.
>
> ESM fans operate better with it, but many (most?) people find ESM horribly
> disruptive and frustrating. It's how one's mind works during the QSO
> phases.
>
> WriteLog's ESM works great for me and my S&P messages differ from my Run
> messages. Not recommended for most folks though.
>
> 73,
> Ed W0YK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WriteLog [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alan
> Maenchen
> Sent: 27 November, 2018 10:47
> To: jeflanders@comcast.net; WriteLog Reflector
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Popular Logging Programs for CQ WW SSB
>
> Jerry,
>
> I think both WinTest and TR4WIN have only one mode: ESM with different
> macros for run and S&P. I don't know if there's any way to turn it off. I
> had one guest op come over and he had to install TR4WIN because that's what
> he likes. It would drive me crazy. I've used WinTest a couple of times and
> was able to use it, but had to be very careful not to do something that it
> considered unusual .. which would result in QLF.
>
> Maybe I've just become too comfortable with WL, but I like the idea of me
> being in charge of the radio and the conversation. The logger should follow
> me. Not the other way around. I suppose like most things, you can get used
> to it with time and practice.
>
> 73, Alan AD6E / KH6TU
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:16 AM Jerry Flanders <jeflanders@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On November 27, 2018 at 12:50 PM Alan Maenchen <ad6e@arrl.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >...I really don't like it when keys on the keyboard change
> > > function .. for any reason. I've learned to change the N1MM macros such
> > > that "run" and S&P do exactly the same things... and turn off ESM. Then
> > it
> > > becomes a usable logger. IMHO
> > ...
> >
> > I had to use n1mm for a couple contests awhile back. That is exactly what
> > I had to do to make it usable for me. Strange the n1mm authors defaulted
> > the user into that mode (changing the macros between run and S&P). The
> > switch must work well for some guys, or it wouldn't still be there. Do
> any
> > other contest programs switch like that? I had always used WL, and never
> > ran into it before.
> >
> > Jerry W4UK
> >
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