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Re: [WriteLog] Writelog's Future

To: "Filip Poverud" <Filip.Poverud@ergogroup.no>,"Alec Otulak" <sp2ewq@wp.pl>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Writelog's Future
From: "Byron Lichtenwalner" <w3wkr@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:07:52 -0500
List-post: <mailto:writelog@contesting.com>
Dear Filip
While logging contest calls is perhaps the fundamental application WL, there 
are many others that make me a better contester.  Examples:New multiplier 
recognition, efficient running of two radios and auto logging of their 
settings, ability to recognize partial calls, automatically finding antenna 
headings, and on and on.

I believe the developers, after long experience as successful contest 
operators, chose the development tools that were the best available at the 
time to perform the multiple functions that many of us desired(required).

What are you suggesting as an alternative?

Look forward in seeing you in the next contest.

Byron, W3WKR
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Filip Poverud" <Filip.Poverud@ergogroup.no>
To: "Alec Otulak" <sp2ewq@wp.pl>
Cc: <writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Writelog's Future


>I would like to tell you about my self.
>
> I'm 32 years old. Born in Poland, citizen of Norway.
> Working as a Senior Consultant on CRM/MiddleWare solutions.
> I have a strong developer bacground and my education is within technical
> chemistry and microbiology.
>
> ---
>
> One thing that I have observed is the fact that we face a hierarchy in
> our real lifes.
> We have one counterpartner, and ourselfes.
>
> In this context, the WL context, we have the developer and the members
> of the forum.
> The members may be observed as actors with an interest in WL.
> The developer is also an actor with interests in WL.
>
> The challenge occurs when one part of the actors tend to find GUI as the
> important factor for solving a usecase.
> We have to ask: WHat is the purpose of WL.
>
> In my humble opinion, the purpose is to efficiently log QSOs within a
> contest.
> For this purpose, I do not need GUI, ... I need efficient functionality.
>
> Hence, I do not care about useless colors or cool toolbars.
> As long as WL does the logging, I'm satisfied ... because it solves my
> request, the usecase which is to log a QSO.
> And this is solved perfectly.
>
> ---
>
> If anyone want more diamonds ... pls. use another logger with all that
> cool monkey crap.
> Try to distinguish inbetween what you need and what you would like to
> spam your computer with.
>
> ---
>
> I don't say that Alec is a fool and I'm the master.
> I only know by many years of experience while working with business
> processes ... that the answer is not colors and fancy GUI ... but a
> simple function that resolve the usecase of importance.
>
> ---
>
> with Regards
> Filip Poverud
>
> 73 de LB1UE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alec Otulak
> Sent: 27. november 2007 22:31
> To: pcooper@guernsey.net; writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Writelog's Future
>
>
>
>
>
> Phil,
>
> As I seem to have recovered after the CQ-WW I want You to know I have
> replied to Your further message.
> However, I cannot see it posted at all.
>
> In my reply I have suggested implementation of the codes within
> Writelog, which I find successfully used in 'Digital Master 780'
> and are published at http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
>
> I have many more ideas which I would like to share. However, before I do
> that I need to know whether there is anybody who may want to listen to
> me at all.
>
> By the way, during CQ-WW I could not use Writelog because it had taken
> me too much time to configure it, so there was no time left to get a
> feel of it, in this respect the deficiency is Writelog's obsolete 'help
> file'.
>
> Have You received that message,
> please ?
>
> Yours,
> Alec
> SP2EWQ/2
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Alec Otulak
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:17 AM
> To: pcooper@guernsey.net; writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Writelog's Future with PSK31
>
>
>
>
> Phil,
>
> Yes, You were/are absolutely clear.
> I do hope my point was/is also as clear as Yours.
> Writelog has become MY software. However, it does not meet my
> expectations, and the opinions I have presented are not just mine.
>
> It is good we agree: improvements are welcome to it.
>
> 73,
> Alec
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Cooper [mailto:pcooper@guernsey.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:30 PM
> To: Alec Otulak; writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: Writelog's Future with PSK31
>
> Hi Alec,
>
> You are missing the point here. WL does an EXCELLENT job on it's own,
> and really does NOT need any additional "bells & whistles" to "improve"
> it.
>
> I was merely suggesting that there is nothing stopping you opening
> another program to get a full spectrum of what is happening on the band.
>
> Personally, I only had the second window open to see what else was
> around.
> The problem with that is - being a wide band decode - you can't always
> see the weaker stations with this second window. Most times, all you
> decode are those stations who insist on using way too much power for a
> mode such as PSK31. (And PLEASE do not let us get into a discussion of
> power levels and PSK again!) The advantage of WL is that it offers way
> superior decoding, so you get to work stations you would not otherwise
> hear.
>
> My suggestion was to show that WL does NOT need to implement things
> which are already available to you!
>
> I am not going to suggest that WL cannot be improved, but it is up to
> the individual to use whatever means they can to assist in ways which
> are available readily.
>
> An example of this may be that I sometimes open a second instance of
> MMTTY, and choose a different "PROFILE" to see what differences are
> decoded. I have sometimes opened MMVARI, just to see what difference
> that makes.
>
> Does that imply a deficiency in WL? No, it does not, and nor should WL
> be considered inferior simply because it is my choice to open a second
> MMTTY or MMVARI window.
>
> I hope that makes my position clear?
>
> 73 for now,
>
> Phil GU0SUP
>
>
>
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