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[WriteLog] Sound with sound card

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Subject: [WriteLog] Sound with sound card
From: gbaron@charter.net (GilBaronW0MN)
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:22:14 -0600
> -----Original Message-----
> From: writelog-admin@contesting.com
> [mailto:writelog-admin@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Billy Cox
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 13:57
> To: Writelog@Contesting. Com
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Sound with sound card
>
>
> >There have been a few complaints about the sound when using
> >your sound card for contest exchanges. I find that it works quite well.
>
> Sometimes ... the common word that many use is "sometimes"
>
> Sorry ... I don't want a "sometimes it records, sometimes it sounds
> great, sometimes it needs more editing, and sometimes ..."
>
> WL takes a hit here, the *.doc is poor. There's no indication of
> IF you are recording, and then this dance of the various parameters,

You are correct but the only other SOFTWARE that works is with TRLOG and the
documentation is even MUCH worse and the result is even worse, requiring DOS
to run and a lot more knowledge.

> all to use a sound card ... defeat the purpose of using the software in
> the first place. Again I'll offer a solution, just as the W5XD keyer
> addresses the keying problem on CW, move up to some form of
> a ???? VOICE keyer to address these issues on SSB. Or add the
> support for the devices that solve this problem just as the W5XD
> keyer does as to solving the WL CW keying issue in Windows.
>


I agree that a better document and better in interface would help but I can
easily tell when I am recording. I just remove the MIC from my radio and
when I start I hear the PTT relay and when I end I here it drop. I also use
the monitor.
It is free and that is enough for me FOR NOW, as I assume it will improve.
WriteLog was and still is the premier RTTY software but it cannot survive as
ONLY RTTY and I am sure it will improve for SSB. I already think it is MUCH
better than TRLOG, even with bugs in contest modules.

If you want to make complaints it should IMHO, concentrate on the REAL
PROBLEMS.

The BY FAR GREATEST improvement to WriteLog would be a way EASILY create
contest modules WITHOUT knowledge of ++ or buying Visual C++.

Also modules ought to be tested better before release.

The 10 meter module has an obvious bug that should have been caught. If you
do not enter a serial in the QTH (Why that field) for a DX station it not
only lets you log it but also scores it as a valid contact. There is no
excuse for an error in scoring on a contest logger. That should be a top
priority.




> Writelog is GREAT on RTTY and CW, but SSB ... sadly this is the
> software's Achilles' heel.
>
> >After the recording is doe to get the best result you should really edit
> >the sound files. You will have clicks and pops and dead spots if you do
> >not. This is especially true if you are using the ability to synthesize
> >calls by recording all the letters.
>
> I agree ... that's exactly what I noticed also .. but it's unacceptable
> to have to now go to ANOTHER software package to "fix this"
> or to have to spend TIME editing and re-editing voice messages
> when this is not required with other contest software or hardware!
>
> Sorry, I am a contestor ... NO OTHER software requires me to
> invest the time to go back and "edit the sound files". The W9XT
> or K1EA boards do not require this ... If I have a guest op here,
> he should not have to come over the weekend before "to record
> his messages, and edit them". I wasted roughly 8 hours this last
> weekend trying to work past these issues ... and ended up closing
> down WL and going back to TR and my K1EA unit. No pops, no
> crackles, and I KNEW when I was recording and playing the DVK.
>
> >It is going to take a good bit of time to get that right.
>
> Yes, it sure will ... IF the sound card is the ONLY option ... All of this
> is because we are trying to use a device in a near real-time mode, it
> flunks the KISS test badly. Software should SAVE time ... and allow
> TRUE "on the fly" recording. Not have to record and edit in order to use
> the desired data as a voice message memory in a contest.
>
> This is an area where WL can really make some improvements.
>
> 73 Billy AA4NU
>
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