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From: n3hs@qsl.net (Stan Staten)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:42:05 -0400
To add to his point, when I moved into this house in 1977 I put up a 5-band 
trap vertical (10-80) and put untuned ground radials out in 4 directions 
for about 20 feet.  I used a 3 foot ground rod at the end of each radial 
and an 8 foot rod in the center.  When I was tuning it up, I heard a 
british sounding voice and gave him a call after his QSO ended.  He was in 
Australia.  Not bad for barefoot with an FT-101 in Maryland.

As a side point, I have been rather disappointed with my R7 mounted about 
12 feet high.

73 Stan, N3HS

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>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:24:53 EDT
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] SO2R contesting question
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>Jim (et all);
>
>Not to belabor a point, but I thought a quickie expansion of vertical problem
>might help: Ground losses are not just 1/4 wavelength from the antenna. Good
>radials take care of that. As the signal radiates from the vertical the
>electric field, being vertical, induces eddie currents in the earth for many
>many wavelengths until the signal becomes a "sky wave". All those eddies sap
>signal strength both comming and going. Thats why salt water works so well.
>However, it needs several miles of salt water in the desired direction to be
>really effective for DX.
>
>73, Al
>
>
>In a message dated 6/11/2001 16:12:36 Pacific Daylight Time,
>jbrannig@optonline.net writes:
>
> > I have been fooling around with ground mounted verticals for years (and
> >  dipoles and Yagis)
> >  The view that they "radiate in all directions poorly" is generally 
> true....
> >  Ground conductivity is crucial.  In this area we have hardpan , rocks and
> >  clay over sand....all manner of radials did not do the job.
> >  but, with that said, I have had some luck with a 1/4 wavelength on
> >  40M....higher freqs. require getting it up in the air, but a dipole will
> >  work better.
> >  my 2cents
> >  Jim
> >
>
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