Thanks Bruce
I had tried the "two radios on one PC" method of generating a multi-two log
and, as you noted, it doesn't indicate the transmitter in the log. So it
appears that the Cabrillo file *does* indicate the transmitter, and as
you've mentioned, there is probably no real need for a second log. And
having the transmitter information in the log will make it a piece of cake
to extract two logs if necessary. I will e-mail Dan Henderson at ARRL and
find out what his take on all of this is.
(BTW - I went ahead and bought your Cabrillo Tools anyway - I think I can
get a lot of use out of them!)
73,
-Marty NW0L
martyt@pobox.com
At 02:21 AM 2/24/01 -0500, Bruce Lifter wrote:
>Marty,
>
>I have done a couple of Multi-Two contests with Writelog. Basically we
>set up two stations /computers networked together with a single log. We
>also checked the option to log which radio makes the contact. After the
>contest, if you save the log in Cabrillo format (with the category set
>to MULTI-TWO) the resultant Cabrillo Log will have the proper radio
>identified. Here is a sample from the test I just performed (disregard
>the callsigns, they were whatever came to mind):
>
>START-OF-LOG: 2.0
>ARRL-SECTION: SFL
>CALLSIGN: WT4I
>CATEGORY: MULTI-TWO ALL HIGH MIXED
>CLAIMED-SCORE: 147
>CLUB:
>CONTEST: ARRL-DX-CW
>NAME: Bruce Lifter
>ADDRESS: 1920 Eva Lane
>ADDRESS: Malabar, FL 32950
>OPERATORS: WT4I
>SOAPBOX:
>QSO: 7000 CW 2001-02-24 0642 WT4I 599 FL I0ZZZ 599 KW 1
>QSO: 3500 CW 2001-02-24 0637 WT4I 599 FL P40ZZZ 599 500 0
>QSO: 3500 CW 2001-02-24 0637 WT4I 599 FL F6QE 599 1000 0
>QSO: 14000 CW 2001-02-24 0637 WT4I 599 FL RA0ZZZ 599 500 0
>QSO: 14000 CW 2001-02-24 0638 WT4I 599 FL G0AZT 599 400 0
>QSO: 7000 CW 2001-02-24 0645 WT4I 599 FL SP6ZZZ 599 100 1
>QSO: 7000 CW 2001-02-24 0645 WT4I 599 FL LU4ZZZ 599 300 1
>END-OF-LOG:
>
>(I removed some white space so the log would not wrap.)
>
>As you can see, the last field identifies radio. This is provided for in
>the Cabrillo format. If so, why does the ARRL require separate logs for
>each radio? It seems the rule needs to be updated for the new ARRL format.
>Maybe a question should be directed at the ARRL Contest Manager?
>
>In any event, if the contest manager insists on two logs, here is yet
>another option (outside of using my tools):
>
>1. Build the Cabrillo Format log, with the radio information included,
>using Writelog.
>
>2. Import the log into MS Excel. Start at the first QSO and make sure that
>all fields (columns) are identified. (MS Excel will try and combine some
>of the columns so you may have to manually mark the start of the critical
>columns such as date, time.)
>
>3. Delete the END-OF-LOG: line.
>
>4. Sort the log by radio, date, time.
>
>5. Cut the radio zero information and paste into a text file with the
>original Cabrillo header. (Don't forget the "END-OF-LOG:".)
>
>6. Repeat for radio one.
>
>In my testing, I did find that Writlog gets the radio information for the
>Cabrillo log from the network computer logging the QSO. In other words, two
>radios on a single computer do not constitute a multi-two. In my test,
>one computer had 2 radios connected, the other 1 radio. Both radios on
>one computer showed up as radio zero. The third radio on the second computer
>showed up in the Cabrillo log as radio one. Without the network information
>included, I could not get Writelog to include the radio information into the
>Cabrillo log. (Two radios on one computer would not work.)
>
>The bottom line is that I believe Writelog follows the spirit of the Cabrillo
>format in regard to Multi-Two reporting. The ARRL needs to update their rules.
>It is similar to the rule that states that off times must be clearly
>identified
>in the log. This is obsolete with the Cabrillo format.
>
>73, Bruce WT4I
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-writelog@contesting.com
> > [mailto:owner-writelog@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Marty Tippin
> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 9:08 PM
> > To: writelog@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Keeping separate logs for Multi-Two
> >
> >
> >
> > I assume by the (almost) total lack of response that nobody else who uses
> > WriteLog has operated multi-two, so I guess pretty much I'm on my own for
> > this one. I am certain that the Cabrillo file created by WriteLog does not
> > care and does not distinguish between radios, so this is a bit of an uphill
> > battle.
> >
> > Wayne K7WM did suggest using the File | Export | ASCII with no formatting,
> > by Radio - which will produce a separate log for each radio, but doesn't do
> > much to get it into Cabrillo format. The suggestion was to then use WT4I's
> > Cabrillo tools (www.CabrilloTools.com)to convert the file to Cabrillo
> > format, which I guess is what I'll have to do before we can submit our log.
> >
> > While WriteLog has great support for multiple stations (whether operating
> > multi/multi, multi/two or multi/single), it seems there is a lack of
> > support in the area of log preparation for multi-radio entries. I for one
> > would certainly like to see that addressed in a future release!
> >
> > -Marty NW0L
> > martyt@pobox.com
> >
> >
> > At 01:13 PM 2/22/01 -0600, Marty Tippin wrote:
> >
> > >Will be running multi-two in the upcoming ARRL DX phone contest - one
> > >requirement of the rules is that each transmitter maintain a "separate,
> > >chronological log for the entire contest period".
> > >
> > >We plan to have the two stations networked during the contest, and from my
> > >experience in Field Day last year, WriteLog basically keeps the entire log
> > >on both computers all the time, tracking which station made which contact.
> > >
> > >We want to network the stations so that either station can work any
> band at
> > >any time and always know about dupes, etc. Worked great during Field Day.
> > >
> > >How, then, do I generate two separate logs at the end of the contest?
> I know
> > >writelog can keep separate logs by band, etc. but what the rule is asking
> > >for is a log from each station.
> > >
> > >Maybe there's a way to do it in WriteLog but I can't recall at the present
> > >(and am at work so don't have it here to play with!)
> > >
> > >Thanks & 73,
> > >
> > >-Marty NW0L
> > > martyt@pobox.com
>
>
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