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Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 265, Issue 6

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] VHFcontesting Digest, Vol 265, Issue 6
From: Russell Farrell <ve3ell@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 11:54:24 -0500
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There are a small group of vhf operators that are on usually between 7am to
10 am in the great lakes area. Sometimes I get up by 8am but being retired
I see no sense in that other than medical apps.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:48 a.m. <vhfcontesting-request@contesting.com>
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>    1. Re: 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe (Tony Contratto)
>    2. Re: 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe (Jonesy W3DHJ)
>    3. Re: 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe (K3SK@buckwalter.co)
>    4. Re: 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe (RT Clay)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2025 16:47:42 -0600
> From: Tony Contratto <vhfcontesting@kg9ov.org>
> To: John Golomb <john.golomb@gmail.com>
> Cc: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe
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> While I can appreciate that this a world wide event, a quick look at the
> past entry statistics on the website suggests that roughly 50+ percent of
> the submitted logs are still from the US.  Personally, I?m for
> experimenting with things that may improve the SSB/CW activity in VHF
> contests.  But placing this new SSB/CW contest on 4th of July weekend and
> expecting that to *increase* participation seems very optimistic to me.
> That was a poor date choice in my opinion.
>
> As a rover (I?m obviously biased here), any serious effort in a VHF
> contest is a full weekend plus commitment.  It may be different for fixed
> stations and/or the casual operator, but personally this has me deciding if
> I want to participate at all.
>
> Just my 2c?
>
> -Tony
> KG9OV
>
>
>
> > On Jan 6, 2025, at 8:51?PM, John Golomb <john.golomb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Happy New Year,
> >
> > Results and final scores for the 2024 CQWW  VHF Contest have been posted
> to
> > the website.
> >
> > https://cqww-vhf.com/results/
> >
> > Thanks to all participants.  Please see the writeup for a discussion of
> big
> > rules changes for at least the next 2 years.  We have made separate
> SSB/CW
> > and digital weekends.
> >
> > CQWW VHF SSB/CW Contest
> > 2025: 1200Z July 5 - 1200 Z July 6
> > 2026: 1200Z July 4 - 1200 Z July 5
> >
> > CQWW VHF Digital Contest
> > 2025: 1200Z July 19 - 1200Z July 20
> > 2026: 1200Z July 18 - 1200Z July 19
> >
> > A full version of the updated rules will be available soon.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > John N2NC
> > Director CQ WW VHF Contest
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>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 07:34:35 -0700 (MST)
> From: Jonesy W3DHJ <mailserver@jonz.net>
> To: Tony Contratto <vhfcontesting@kg9ov.org>
> Cc: John Golomb <john.golomb@gmail.com>, vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe
> Message-ID: <38649400-o6n0-o1s9-9221-4n323q20p47q@wbam.arg>
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> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Tony Contratto wrote:
>
> >As a rover (I?m obviously biased here), any serious effort in a VHF
> >contest is a full weekend plus commitment.  It may be different for
> >fixed stations and/or the casual operator, but personally this has me
> >deciding if I want to participate at all.
>
> Rover here, too.
> Well, the dates do not really bother me.  But, THE TIMES!!!
> I had to read the web page <https://cqww-vhf.com/rules/> several
> times to believe it.
> This means it's a Saturday-only contest for me.
> And the earlier hours on Saturday do me no good.
> I rarely ever had a "SSB/CW/FM" QSO before 9 AM local in any of the VHF
> contests -- going back nearly 2 decades.  Add to that the Local/regional
> VHF SSB/CW/FM (contest) activity has collapsed over the last half-dozen
> years or so.
>
> My preliminary, back-of-the-napkin plans would be to operate 1500z to
> 0200/0300z on Saturday only.  If at all...
>
> It seems like a good scheme to take SSB/CW/FM completely out of CQ VHF
> contesting.
>
> 73
> Jonesy
> --
>   Marvin L Jones     | W3DHJ      | W3DHJ  | https://W3DHJ.net/
>    Pueblo, Colorado  |  @         | Jonesy |     __ linux FreeBSD
>     38.238N 104.547W |   jonz.net | DM78rf | 73  SK
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 10:03:16 -0500
> From: <K3SK@buckwalter.co>
> To: "'Jonesy W3DHJ'" <W3DHJ@jonz.net>,  "'Tony Contratto'"
>         <vhfcontesting@kg9ov.org>
> Cc: "'Jonesy W3DHJ'" <mailserver@jonz.net>,
>         <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe
> Message-ID: <0b1101db62a7$9da55440$d8effcc0$@buckwalter.co>
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> Not a rover.  I gave up roving and portable operating back in the last
> century.  I now do all my contesting from my shack.    My biggest issue is
> the split, or two weekends.   There is no way I would be able to
> participate two different weekends.   Life has may other things happening.
>   I also operate "all mode", SSB, CW and digital in all VHF contests.
>  Splitting digital to a separate weekend is idiotic.   Why not keep it a
> single weekend and just split the contest award categories from those that
> want analog modes only?
>
> I have my 1985 Inaugural CQWW VHF WPX Contest Certificate hanging on my
> shack wall.   I've participated in some, not all since then, but this  2
> weekends is probably going to end it for me.   I'll stick with the ARRL
> contests.
>
> de K3SK
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces+k3sk=
> buckwalter.co@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Jonesy W3DHJ via VHFcontesting
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:35 AM
> To: Tony Contratto <vhfcontesting@kg9ov.org>
> Cc: Jonesy W3DHJ <mailserver@jonz.net>; vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Tony Contratto wrote:
>
> >As a rover (I?m obviously biased here), any serious effort in a VHF
> >contest is a full weekend plus commitment.  It may be different for
> >fixed stations and/or the casual operator, but personally this has me
> >deciding if I want to participate at all.
>
> Rover here, too.
> Well, the dates do not really bother me.  But, THE TIMES!!!
> I had to read the web page <https://cqww-vhf.com/rules/> several times to
> believe it.
> This means it's a Saturday-only contest for me.
> And the earlier hours on Saturday do me no good.
> I rarely ever had a "SSB/CW/FM" QSO before 9 AM local in any of the VHF
> contests -- going back nearly 2 decades.  Add to that the Local/regional
> VHF SSB/CW/FM (contest) activity has collapsed over the last half-dozen
> years or so.
>
> My preliminary, back-of-the-napkin plans would be to operate 1500z to
> 0200/0300z on Saturday only.  If at all...
>
> It seems like a good scheme to take SSB/CW/FM completely out of CQ VHF
> contesting.
>
> 73
> Jonesy
> --
>   Marvin L Jones     | W3DHJ      | W3DHJ  | https://W3DHJ.net/
>    Pueblo, Colorado  |  @         | Jonesy |     __ linux FreeBSD
>     38.238N 104.547W |   jonz.net | DM78rf | 73  SK
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2025 16:26:24 +0000 (UTC)
> From: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
> To: "vhfcontesting@contesting.com" <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe
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>  You can't please everyone with the dates. I actually like the new dates.
> I have always had a conflict with the later July CQ VHF date, but I should
> be able to operate the earlier July event.
>
>
> I am also glad someone is finally trying a VHF contest with a restricted
> set of modes.
>
>
> Tor N4OGW
>
>     On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 09:03:47 AM CST, David R Buckwalter
> via VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting@contesting.com> wrote:
>
>  Not a rover.? I gave up roving and portable operating back in the last
> century.? I now do all my contesting from my shack.? ? My biggest issue is
> the split, or two weekends.? There is no way I would be able to participate
> two different weekends.? Life has may other things happening.? ? I also
> operate "all mode", SSB, CW and digital in all VHF contests.? Splitting
> digital to a separate weekend is idiotic.? Why not keep it a single weekend
> and just split the contest award categories from those that want analog
> modes only??
>
> I have my 1985 Inaugural CQWW VHF WPX Contest Certificate hanging on my
> shack wall.? I've participated in some, not all since then, but this? 2
> weekends is probably going to end it for me.? I'll stick with the ARRL
> contests.
>
> de K3SK
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces+k3sk=
> buckwalter.co@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Jonesy W3DHJ via VHFcontesting
> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:35 AM
> To: Tony Contratto <vhfcontesting@kg9ov.org>
> Cc: Jonesy W3DHJ <mailserver@jonz.net>; vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] 2024 CQWW VHF Results availalbe
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Tony Contratto wrote:
>
> >As a rover (I?m obviously biased here), any serious effort in a VHF
> >contest is a full weekend plus commitment.? It may be different for
> >fixed stations and/or the casual operator, but personally this has me
> >deciding if I want to participate at all.
>
> Rover here, too.
> Well, the dates do not really bother me.? But, THE TIMES!!!
> I had to read the web page <https://cqww-vhf.com/rules/> several times to
> believe it.
> This means it's a Saturday-only contest for me.
> And the earlier hours on Saturday do me no good.
> I rarely ever had a "SSB/CW/FM" QSO before 9 AM local in any of the VHF
> contests -- going back nearly 2 decades.? Add to that the Local/regional
> VHF SSB/CW/FM (contest) activity has collapsed over the last half-dozen
> years or so.
>
> My preliminary, back-of-the-napkin plans would be to operate 1500z to
> 0200/0300z on Saturday only.? If at all...
>
> It seems like a good scheme to take SSB/CW/FM completely out of CQ VHF
> contesting.
>
> 73
> Jonesy
> --
> ? Marvin L Jones? ? | W3DHJ? ? ? | W3DHJ? | https://W3DHJ.net/
> ? Pueblo, Colorado? |? @? ? ? ? | Jonesy |? ? __ linux FreeBSD
> ? ? 38.238N 104.547W |? jonz.net | DM78rf | 73? SK
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