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Re: [VHFcontesting] [222Activity] Saturday evening is a FUN time to hang

To: Joe Hat <i_am_joes_hat@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [222Activity] Saturday evening is a FUN time to hang out on 222 MHz
From: David Olean <k1whs@metrocast.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:42:21 -0500
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Was K5N on 222? That is good if true. I will be back on at around 0600 UT as the Moon drops below 62 degrees. Above that elevation, the yagi reflectors start to hit the guy wires. I lowered the guys ten ft below the tower top, but they guys still get in the way. I run out of room at about 0315 UT.  I will look for you late after 0600. Or, maybe we can work with the antenna slightly off the Moon?

Dave K1WHS

On 11/16/2024 12:07 PM, Joe Hat wrote:
I have an event I’ll be driving back from arriving about 0400Z tonight so whoever is at the 
party and can elevate, don’t go away. I’ll be on HB9Q . Worked W4ZST and K5N last 
night, after fixing dish tracking issue. Murphy particularly likes EME.
John S
W2BYP



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On Nov 16, 2024, at 11:08 AM, David Olean <k1whs@metrocast.net> wrote:

OK, it isn't as much fun as firing off an M-60 machine gun, or base jumping 
from Mt Aconcagua, but it still can be a hoot. This last pass of the MOON on Saturday 
night into Sunday morning of the EME Contest will feature just about everyone who is 
capable of putting a signal to the Moon and back on 222 MHz.  OK, you say but I am not 
capable of sending a signal to the Moon and have it come back strong enough for anyone 
to hear it.   Think again! Last night, I tried a test with N1YCQ in FN41. N1YCQ has a 
single 15 element yagi and about 190 watts RF in the shack. Wheat tells me that he has 
about 2 dB of feedline loss. His beam is fairly low to the ground. We started at his 
Moon rise and went for about 25 minutes and when the Moon was just below 5 degrees, I 
copied him for three transmit periods. It was quite exciting to see his direct signal 
at about -20 path and then see his Moon reflected signal at -25 dB about 400 Hz higher 
and with a 2.6 second delay. The bad news was that he could not detect me, or we would 
have had a nice QSO via the Moon.

I plan to be active around 222.080 as the Moon rises in New England and then 
across the mid West.  I will be monitoring the HB9Q chat page for 222MHz. 
(There are different chat pages for each band)  If you want to try a horizon 
attempt, just get onto that HB9Q 222 MHz chat page and let us know, and we will 
make noise in hopes that a contact can be made.  I will be active until about 
0300 UT. Then the Moon is too high for me to aim. I can be back again at about 
06:15 UT when it drops below 62 degrees again.  I have to QRT when the Moon 
rises in Hawaii at about 0330UT.

So please try and allocate some time around your Moon rise. If you do not have 
a Moon tracking program, WSJTX has aiming info for your location in  real time. 
You can get an idea from these numbers around the country.:

Maine  21:40 UT

Indiana  22:50 UT

Arkansas  23:35 UT

Idaho    00:30 UT

California   01:30 UT.


I hope to see you on 222 this evening. Of course Sweepstakes SSB is going on, 
but Sweepstakes is not quite as exciting as base jumping or squeezing off 
bursts from an M-60 or a 50 cal Browning.

73

Dave K1WHS



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