Hi Roger,
I can appreciate what you are trying to do, but I wonder how effective this
method will be for several reasons.
1) From a UI perspective, pop ups are annoying.
Who would want to have to click away a popup when you are mid QSO with someone
else just because someone you just worked sends you a QSY request? I would use
a separate window for it or utilize unused space on the main window. Nothing
should be interfering with what you are doing already.
2) It clutters a shared channel with non-QSO traffic.
Unless you can somehow squeeze a QSY request into a message that is already
part of the QSO exchange, you are generating non-QSO traffic that has no
guarantee of being delivered. Also, what happens when someone replies "no' but
that doesn't get received? Will you continue to get pop up if the requester
continues to send QSY requests?
I do like the QSY request idea but would implement it very differently. Instead
of on-air messaging, I would utilize use an IP based mechanism. And instead of
a Message Creator window I would build a Message Center window in which one can
send QSY requests and reply to such requests. This same Message Center could
also be used for a regular QSO request as well. Sure, this would add quite a
bit of complexity to implement, but it would be a lot more elegant, less
interfering with the flow of making QSO's, and not add clutter to a shared
channel. Heck, it would make for a great alternative to the KST chat page! With
this option I could continue to make QSO's while also handle QSO/QSY requests
at the same time if I choose to do so.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
-----Original Message-----
From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces+alex=kr1st.com@contesting.com> On
Behalf Of Roger Rehr via VHFcontesting
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2024 8:49 AM
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: [VHFcontesting] New WSJT-X Messaging System available for testing
Hi All,
The WSJT modes have been an exciting and revolutionary addition to our amateur
radio armamentarium. They have allowed us to make contacts that would be
impossible without them.
An unfortunate side effect of their use in some contests (e.g. the ARRL
January, June, and September VHF Contests) is that it has become difficult to
pull folks away from FT8 on one band, particularly on 50 MHz, to make digital
or analog contacts on other bands.
Because of the above, a new WSJT-X Message System is under development.
The system is specially designed for VHF/UHF/SHF applications, but is now also
suitable for general use. It is based on a messaging algorithm proposed by
W4ZST in 2021 for the NA VHF Contest to invite your QSO partner to QSY to
another QRG or mode.
A first prototype is ready for testing now in the latest release of
wjst-x_improved, and if the system proves successful, it will likely be
introduced in plain WSJT-X with a future Release Candidate 8.
With this new system, generating these request messages requires just a few
mouse clicks and no typing. When WSJT-X-improved receives such a request
message it generates a pop-up indicating the requested frequency and mode and
gives the recipient the opportunity to reply "yes" or "no"
to the request. When the requestor's instance of WSJT-X-improved receives an
affirmative or negative reply it generates a pop-up indicating that response.
A Windows installer and a pdf file describing how to use the messaging system
are available on SourceForge at
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt-x-improved/files/WSJT-X_v2.7.1/Test%20versions%20%28WSJT-X%20Message%20System%29/
as is a png image file that shows at a single glance how everything works.
wsjt-x_improved is an enhanced version of the excellent WSJT-X software by Joe
Taylor K1JT, Steve Franke K9AN, Bill Somerville G4WJS, Uwe Risse DG2YCB, and
others. Uwe is the project leader for wsjt-x_improved as well as being one of
the members of the core WSJT Development group.
If you try this new version of wsjt-X_improved and have questions regarding the
use of the messaging system, feel free to email me for help. If you have
questions or comments that you feel would be of interest to / helpful to other
users, please consider posting them to either the wsjt-x-improved-community
mailing list or the WSJT GROUP forum. You can sign up for the former at:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt-x-improved/lists/wsjt-x-improved-community
and for the latter at:
https://groups.io/g/wsjtgroup
Thanks to Dick Frey W2AAU and the N.E.W.S. Group club members, whose
discussions spurred the development of this messaging system!
73,
Roger Rehr
W3SZ
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