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Re: [VHFcontesting] [Moon-Net] Bob Sutherland 3CX1000A7 VHF Amplifier

To: "'Terry Price'" <terry@directivesystems.com>, "'Edward R Cole'" <kl7uw@acsalaska.net>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [Moon-Net] Bob Sutherland 3CX1000A7 VHF Amplifier
From: "Ron Rogers" <ww8rr@charter.net>
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 12:27:55 -0500
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Not to mention that the 3CX1000a7 tube requires 5 volts at 50 amps just to 
light the filament…..same as a pair of 3-500Zs.  That's 250 watts consumed by 
the tube just to get it to "light up".

 

And Terry, since you mentioned the Eimac triode breach lock socket 
(SK-860)…….if you can even find one of those they will cost you $300-500.

 

Ron

WW8RR

 

From: Moon-net [mailto:moon-net-bounces@mailman.pe1itr.com] On Behalf Of Terry 
Price via Moon-net
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2021 11:57 AM
To: Edward R Cole
Cc: Byron Tatum; Moon-net Amateur Radio Moonbounce
Subject: Re: [Moon-Net] Bob Sutherland 3CX1000A7 VHF Amplifier

 

Ed,

 

A 3CX1000A7 is NOT an 8877, a 3CX1500A7 is. Two COMPLETELY different tubes, 
different sockets, they are more like a 4CX1000A7 which is a breech lock 
socket. A 8877 is an indirectly heated cathode and a 3CX1000A7 is a directly 
heated cathode, like a 3-500z. Drive requirements and input/output capacitance 
are different. I've built a 3CX1000A7 amp using the classic W6PO 2m output tank 
but the input is much different. There was even a design using a 3CX1000A7 on 
432 but it had poor efficiency and required lots of drive.




Terry Price - W8ZN

Directive Systems and Engineering

703-754-3876

 

 

On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:43 AM Edward R Cole via Moon-net 
<moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> wrote:

Byron,

Bob Sutherland was W6PO, who's 3CX1000A7 (8877) amp is a classic design.  Here 
is the link to my 2m-8877 project which I used for several years on eme (sold 
in 2018).
KL7UW 8877 Amplifier <http://www.kl7uw.com/2m-8877.htm>  page 

There was a company making them at one point (do not know if they still do).  
Maybe someone else on this list can assist you on that.  I have the original 
document as reprint of Eimac Amateur Service News letter in the form of a MHTL 
document which I could send as attachment by direct e-mail (not thru Moon-net).

The output circuit of my amp is stripline modification done by Harry WA4OFS 
(sk) who made the RF parts for my amp as a kit.

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 06:35 AM 2/8/2021, Byron Tatum via Moon-net wrote:



Hello-
      A long shot here. I am looking for info on a 3CX1000A7 VHF amplifier by 
Bob Sutherland (and two other authors in second article) that appeared as a 2 
part article in March 1969 HR Mag page 6 and April 1970 page 26. What started 
my inquiry was discovery of a plate line assembly from the estate of a well 
known Collins engineer JB Jenkins W5EU. I recognized the assembly as from this 
2 part article of which I have studied in past. Mostly for the sake of 
historical reasons, and learning, I am asking these things:
        1. Does anyone have a copy of the full set of plans that are offered by 
contacting Bob Sutherland at Eimac as referenced in March 1969 article? I 
surely would like to have a set to go with this plate line assembly.
        2. Does anyone know if any of the complete amplifiers as offered by Al 
Roach W6JUK of Dymond Electronics were ever produced? This is referenced in the 
April 1970 article adjacent to the picture of the modified Henry 2K amplifier 
(modified by Bob Sutherland at Eimac to incorporated 3CX1000A7 RF deck using 
Henry power supply).
    I am curious about the history of this 2 part article and if there are any 
pieces of equipment that survived from it. I don't believe I would care to 
duplicate the complex output coupling scheme and mechanics but it is 
interesting to study. I would like to try and find a copy of the construction 
plans to go with this plate line assembly.
Thanks,
Byron W5FH
936-349-6353 cell

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