I was about to post the same thing Zack. You're right. In the 2m sprint, NU4E
took the time and trouble to take his station to a spot on the Blue Ridge
Parkway at 6000 ft. to operate the sprint (thanks Matt!). Anything shorter than
4 hours would probably keep those type of portable operations and rovers from
participating.
73,
Ed K3DNE
EM94
> On 10/02/2020 10:58 AM Zack Widup < w9sz.zack@gmail.com
> mailto:w9sz.zack@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>
> If you're a Rover, 4 hours is barely enough time to get going. There's
> transit time between stops and that eats up a lot of time.
>
> 73, Zack W9SZ
>
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 9:06 AM Ed Kucharski < k3dne@comcast.net
> mailto:k3dne@comcast.net > wrote:
>
>
> > > I'm gonna have to disagree with Chet. 4 hours seems like
> the perfect time
> > period for a sprint. In fact, I ran out of time in the 2m sprint
> > trying to
> > work stations at 22:59. I consider a marathon a 48 hour HF contest
> > or the
> > ARRL VHF contests - not a 4 hour sprint. Perhaps, if some think 4
> > hours is
> > too long, additional sprints can be devised (mini-sprints)? A
> > separate 1 or
> > 2 hour event that would be in addition to the sprints that already
> > exist at
> > a different time of year - similar to the CW Ops Test (CWT) that
> > are of a 1
> > hour duration or Phone Fray a 30 minute contest on HF. IMHO FT8 is
> > so slow
> > I'm not sure 1 hour would be long enough on vhf+.
> > 73,
> > Ed K3DNE
> > EM94
> >
> >
> > > > > On 10/02/2020 9:24 AM Chet S <
> > chetsubaccount@snet.net mailto:chetsubaccount@snet.net mailto:
> > >
> > > > > chetsubaccount@snet.net
> > > mailto:chetsubaccount@snet.net > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > >
> > > Many contests suffer the tapering off of activity after a
> > > while.
> > >
> > > > > Monday night football, super-bowls, debates, Sunday
> > > afternoon sweepstakes
> > doldrums, family time, etc.
> >
> > > > > And nowadays we are constantly pressed to add
> > something "new and
> > >
> > > > > better" into our lives, and if we take more on, then
> > > there is less relax
> > time for our other stuff.
> > >
> >
> > > > > Maybe I'm old school but still highly enjoy
> > hearing a weak signal,
> > >
> > > > > turning the beam to peak it, and trying to work it.
> > > Ahhh, that xyz station
> > improvement I made this summer is working...or not...or pick a beam
> > direction and go fishing to see what you can catch. Make your own
> > decisions
> > when and whether to call toward a population density direction or
> > toward
> > missing grids. SSB vs. FT8. To me that is the name of the game. I
> > do not
> > like the idea of pre-arranged contacts or arranging them in real
> > time, that
> > seems more like DXing than Contesting and not very satisfying.
> > >
> >
> > > > > The sprints are a good fun break from the
> > workday, but are 4 hours a
> > >
> > > > > bit much? It's supposed to be a sprint not a
> > > marathon, so maybe with
> > shorter hours the station activity would be more consistent
> > throughout.
> > >
> >
> > > > > 73,
> > > Chet, N8RA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: VHFcontesting < vhfcontesting-bounces+chetsubaccount=
> > >
> > > > > snet.net@contesting.com
> > > mailto:snet.net@contesting.com
> > > mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces+chetsubaccount=
> > snet.net@contesting.com mailto:snet.net@contesting.com > On Behalf
> > Of David Olean
> >
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 5:01 PM
> > > To: (Radio) VHF Contesting < VHFcontesting@contesting.com
> > > mailto:VHFcontesting@contesting.com mailto:
> > >
> > > > > VHFcontesting@contesting.com
> > > mailto:VHFcontesting@contesting.com >; 222 MHz ACTIVITY <
> > > 222Activity@Groups.io mailto:222Activity@Groups.io
> > mailto: 222Activity@Groups.io mailto:222Activity@Groups.io >
> >
> > > > > Subject: [VHFcontesting] An idea for the
> > sprints.
> > >
> > > It isn't much of an idea, more a suggestion, to not abandon
> > > the VHF
> > >
> > > > > sprints when activity dies down after the initial
> > > spurt of activity. I was
> > not a big fan of opening up chat pages for coordination of contacts
> > in VHF
> > contests. My reasoning was that it favored stations that had good
> > internet
> > connectivity and penalized those that did not.
> > >
> >
> > > > > That being said, we now have the ability to
> > set up schedules for
> > >
> > > > > almost impossible contacts simply by coordinating on
> > > internet sites
> > dedicated to such things. So why did everyone bail out after an
> > hour or so
> > on the
> >
> > > > > 222 Sprint? The few diehards left were ones
> > that I had already
> > >
> > > > > contacted. It would have been great to try some long
> > > haul tropo contacts on
> > CW or even FT4/FT8 with stations that are normally not in range.
> > Trying and
> > failing at a 400+ mile QSO with a 25 watt station or trying a meteor
> > scatter contact is much more agreeable than spending an hour
> > calling CQ and
> > tuning around on a almost empty band with no takers and no results.
> > A few
> > posts for skeds by several of the diehards also went unheeded
> > towards the
> > latter half of the sprint. The last hour, when things die down is
> > the time
> > to experiment and see what your station can do even if it is
> > outside of
> > your comfort zone. The worst that can happen is that the path does
> > not
> > work! Then, there is the problem of which chat page to monitor.
> > Having poor
> > connectivity makes monitoring a number of them impossible for many
> > operators. On a good day, I might be able to cover two chat pages.
> > We
> > should set up a standardization for the sprints so
> >
> > > > > people are all looking at the same place.
> > >
> > > So next time, think twice about quitting early! Do something
> > >
> > > > > exciting instead.
> > >
> >
> > > > > 73
> > >
> > > Dave K1WHS
> > >
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