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Re: [VHFcontesting] Five Band VUCC (5BVUCC) Award Proposal

To: K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Five Band VUCC (5BVUCC) Award Proposal
From: Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 13:08:56 -0500
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Tim,

I’ve actually operated VHF/UHF/Microwave from the West (mostly in New Mexico 
and California) during VHF Contests when I’ve been traveling for business. 

Understand well the challenges faced in making contacts on 2 Meters, 432, etc. 
When it comes to this type of operating, geography is indeed destiny. 

It’s difficult or impossible to mitigate the advantages enjoyed by operators in 
the Northeast. 

That being said, I still believe 5BVUCC is achievable by any committed amateur 
in the 48 states. I live in a deed restricted neighborhood and am limited to 
indoor antennas. This represents a huge disadvantage, but I’ve found ways to 
overcome them. That’s part of the fun. As your own signature file states, 
“Adapt, Overcome,, Succeed!” 

I suspect many operators would achieve 5BVUCC by working with a partner ham. 
You could take a single dish for 5Ghz and 10Ghz to a high peak in a single grid 
square, while your partner drove to LOS locations in five grids. Then “switch” 
to allow both operators to earn VUCC on these bands. It’s done pretty often 
now. 

If you added lasers to the mix, you’d have three of the required bands in a 
weekend. Difficult and expensive perhaps—but certainly something that many have 
already done successfully. 

As for satellite operation, I have to disagree with you. Earning VUCC on 
satellites is certainly more difficult than earning it on 6 Meters. It is truly 
weak-signal operation and requires skill sets that are unique from other types 
of VHF/UHF operation. 

More importantly, there is already a VUCC Award for Satellites, so it wouldn’t 
make sense to exclude this “band” from the award. 

Like 6 Meters, it also makes the 5BVUCC more of a possibility for Western 
operators. 

But I appreciate your opinions, and having you join the discussion. The best 
proposals are formed when input is received from many different viewpoints. 



73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
Maylene, AL 
EM63nf
AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member




> On Apr 22, 2019, at 12:52 PM, K7XC Tim Marek <k7xcnv1@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Les, 
> 
> Your assumptions about what its like to operate in the West hold no Water as 
> well.
> The Entire West has an Active Weak Signal VHF population equal to that of 
> FN31 alone.
> Yes Tall Mountains are a huge advantage but people to work are far and few 
> between on 2M let alone 10GHz. 
> 
> Tim - K7XC - DM09jh.... sk
> 
> Adapt, Overcome,, Succeed!
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 4:36 PM Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com 
> <mailto:les@highnoonfilm.com>> wrote:
> I completely misspoke, and apologize. 
> 
> The Southeast Division of the ARRL is represented on the league’s Boar of 
> Directors by Greg Sarratt, W4OZK who is active on weak signal VHF/UHF. 
> 
> We’ve been informed that the creation of new awards falls to the Board of 
> Directors. If you’re supportive of the proposal to create a new Five Band 
> VUCC Award (5BVUCC) please contact your director. Currently, these are: 
> 
> Tom Abernethy, W3TOM, Atlantic Division 
> 
> Kermit Carlson, W9XA, Central Division 
> 
> Matt Holden, KØBBC, Dakota Division 
> 
> David Norris, K5UZ, Delta Division
> 
> Dale Williams, WA8EFK, Great Lakes Division 
> 
> Ria Jairam, N2RJ, Hudson Division
> 
> Rod Blocksome, KØDAS, Midwest Division 
> 
> Fred Hopengarten, K1VR, New England Division 
> 
> Mike Ritz, W7VO, Northwestern Division
> 
> Jim Tiemstra, K6JAT, Pacific Division
> 
> George “Bud” Hippisley, W2RU, Roanoke Division
> 
> Jeff Ryan, KØRM, Rocky Mountain Division
> 
> Greg Sarratt, W4OZK, Southeastern Division
> 
> Dick Norton, N6AA, Southwestern Division
> 
> David Woolweaver, K5RAV, West Gulf Division Director 
> 
> The proposal is for the league to create a new Five Band VUCC Award that 
> would be earned by achieving five individual band VUCC Awards. This would be 
> similar to the Five Band DXCC Award which has proven to be very popular. 
> 
> This award would be relatively easy to implement within Logbook of the World, 
> and require no significant changes to existing VUCC Rules. 
> 
> Six Meter VUCC and Satellite VUCC are probably the easiest to achieve 
> regardless of geography. Those of us in the East will find 2 Meters, 222, and 
> 432 easier to earn, though WSJT Meteor Scatter and EME open these up to large 
> parts of the country as well. 
> 
> Those in the Western states have easier access to high peaks within range of 
> the five grids required to earn the award on Microwaves. 
> 
> With effort, this award should be achievable to almost any amateur willing to 
> make the necessary commitment. 
> 
> So far, the idea has received a lot of support within the VHF/UHF Community. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> Maylene, AL 
> EM63nf
> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
> 
> 
> 
> 
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