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Re: [VHFcontesting] KM4KMU FM Category + Some N1MM problems

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] KM4KMU FM Category + Some N1MM problems
From: "Chet S" <chetsubaccount@snet.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:15:17 -0400
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Nice job John!

I don't believe the contest sponsor cares what N1MM calculates for your score, 
the sponsor's software will calculate it based upon your submitted Cabrillo 
list of callsigns, times, and grids. The dilemma is if you enter a call/M and 
that person submits a log with just their call, that might be interpreted as an 
error. We all know how important it is to have the /R so credit for their new 
Q's and grids will be given. Or if you or they forget to hit the enter key 
before moving on to the next contact, that would be a not-in-log error. 

If your category is FM, then you should get zero points or a multiplier credit 
for contacts on SSB, but it is OK to have these side contacts in your log so 
they are there for your record, LOTW, etc.

After the official results are posted, you used to be able to go back and 
review the error check of your log to find out what discrepancies were found. 
You can appeal. One time a sponsor had my category incorrect, I e-mailed them, 
they checked my original submission, found their error, and corrected it. 

Another time, a local friend who was working a contest in a different category 
stopped by to "just give me a contact" but did not bother to enter me in his 
log (since I was not in his category), so I got penalized for a N-I-L with him. 
I would have had a golden log except for that, such is life. 

73
Chet, N8RA

-----Original Message-----
From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of John 
Young via VHFcontesting
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:47 PM
To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: [VHFcontesting] KM4KMU FM Category + Some N1MM problems

John YoungKM4KMUFM Only CategoryOperated From Reddish Knob FM08, deep inside 
the National Radio Quiet Zone (with permission) at 4,400 ft. Conditions were 
fantastic.  I was inside of light clouds for most of the contest and it misted 
or rained most of the time but that also put me on top of a heavy rain laden 
cloud layer for most of the contest which provide great propagation.  A leaky 
surface based duct that I was on top of.  Much like January of 2016.   I reach 
out between 250 and 275 miles regularly.  The new SSB mast mounted pre amp for 
446.000 was stellar.

Claimed score will be 14,749255 FM QSO's worth 343 points43 FM multipliers.I 
operated 28 of 33 hrs.Since the FM record is currently just over 8,000 points.  
I think I might have done well.
I also did some SSB work, not much but a little to give away some points as I 
was super busy on FM.  Yes my rate was only 13/hr but on FM its good to rag 
chew a little to make people know you appreciate them being there and to make 
some noise.  I also learned a lot about a history, radio and some great folks 
that I was privileged to meet on the air.
On SSB I made 12 contacts in 7 grids, 3 of them unique to SSB (no FM contact 
those grids).
If I put all the QSO points and unique FM and SSB multipliers together my score 
was 16,330.

Here is the bad. Last September I simply posted my N1MM results and got docked 
A LOT of points after log checking. I never quite figured out what was wrong 
until now. Apparently N1MM calculates you score funky if your FM ONLY.  I 
always select FM ONLY as my category on N1MM.  If you get a grid on SSB before 
FM (for a given band) you get zero points and no credit for the grid or station 
on FM if you are FM only.  If you get the FM Q before the SSB the opposite it 
true.  N1MM calculated my total score (combined FM and SSB) as 16,284, not too 
far off from the 16,330 after correcting for the zero point contacts.  I have 
no idea how the FM score would be in he N1MM calculation since it lumps 
everything together as though I was LP SSB + FM station.  Not upset with the 
N1MM team.  Its a fantastic piece of software and I love it.  After what are 
there what, 10 maybe 15 people across the country that use N1MM for FM ONLY? 
Another problem I ran into last September: I also use to mark mobiles a
 s /M and Rovers as /R.  Now I lump the mobiles in with the Rovers.  ARRL log 
checking software invalidated many of my mobile FM's last year.  When fixed 
stations who could not reach me on high bands and went mobile to hill tops to 
make 220 or 432 Q's on FM or went mobile to new grid squares ARRL either 
deleted the QTH contacts or the mobile contacts and this cost me a bunch of 
grids and points last year.  Again, not upset its just part of the terrain of 
your one of us FM only odd balls.
I am going to include all my FM and SSB contacts in my submission to make sure 
that KJBZYB/R, N3HBX, K1RZ, W3SO, K3ZO and WB7PMP get credit for contacting me 
on SSB but until I am sure I can trust N1MM to get my FM scores correct (it 
takes hours to get this untangled) I will NOT just submit a Cabrillo log 
blindly until I sort it and make sure I get credit for all the FM contacts.
I don't want to sound like a whiner.  It was a great contest.  All the bands 
were great.  I had fantastic propagation, though there seemed to be a big sheet 
of RF absorber wrapped around eastern PA near Philly that I could not 
penetrate. The FM turn out was fantastic.  I set up my rig at the Berryville 
Ham Fest and handed out over 100 flyers asking for FM QSO plus I emailed 
everyone I had ever made a contest QSO with and asked them to get on the air 
for the contest.  I think almost everyone did. FM Simplex is normally a desert. 
 Last weekend it was crowded.  I had lots of pile ups.  I may have even dropped 
a few Q's and grids because I didn't handle them right.
Big thanks to W7IY/R, KG4HOT/R, WB3CEH, WB3JEK, KE4VNC and especially W4JEC in 
coastal North Carolina who heard me from FM08 and gave me that FM15 grid at 275 
miles.  FM simplex at 275 miles?  WOW.
VHF/UHF contesting is great.
73JohnKM4KMU


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