Good idea! Sort of hard to believe that hasn't been done before.. anyone have
any data??
bill, K1DY
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From: Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 4:37 PM
To: Bill Olson; VHF Contesting Reflector
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Log Periodic ?
Maybe someone can bring one to a Central States conference or another
conference where antenna testing is done? Kent WA5VJB has always been
accurate and impartial in his measurements.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Bill Olson <callbill@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Create claims the gain of the 50-1300MHz LPDA is 10-12dBi (~8-10dBd). I
don't see how those numbers could possibly be accurate given the element taper
and the boom length etc.. Reports of performance compared to single band Yagis
seem to bear that out. I'd guess the realistic gain is more like 3-4dB over a
dipole. That's like a 2 or 3 element single band Yagi.. Now admittedly you'd
need 2,3,4, 5 or 6 single band Yagis to do the job since the Log Periodic does
cover 6 ham bands.. If you can tolerate mediocre performance (probably really
poor performance on 903/1296) but need the simplicity of a single antenna I
guess this would be an option, but I sure wouldn't go that way,. Heck, it looks
like the thing costs $519 too, (from DX Engineering at any rate)!! Holy smokes!
The way I see it, you're paying for having broad band performance which you
aren't using.. It works as well at 88MHz as it does at 144! Great for a TV
antenna but who needs that on the ham bands?!
I GET the simplicity factor and agree that ANY antenna is better than no
antenna, and I KNOW people are using these antennas and are happy with them,
just saying my piece I guess..
bill, K1DY in Maine
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From: VHFcontesting <vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Zack Widup
<w9sz.zack@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:23 PM
To: VHF Contesting Reflector
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Log Periodic ?
I think if you're close to a metropolitan area with a lot of people to
work who are close by, the log periodic is the way to go. Some of the
Rovers in the Chicago area I know use LPDA's. My favorite portable
location is about 100 miles from the closest stations I work. I have
found it's advantageous to use a separate, larger beam with more gain
for each band.
73, Zack W9SZ
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Patrick Thomas <p-thomas@mindspring.com> wrote:
Like all things in contesting, I think it depends on one's goals and circumstances.
Sure, an LPDA will not perform as well as long (maybe even mid-length) yagis. But... it
also will cost less, take up less space in the vehicle, take up less space/weight on the
mast, take less time to set up (assuming you start from scratch), and will only require
one run of heavy coax. Plus obviously AN antenna will outperform NO antenna! And as
others have mentioned, you can use it for a backup "any band that failed"
antenna in the future, if you later graduate to a higher-performing setup.
Cheap surplus coax switches of good quality show up fairly often on ebay that
can handle frequencies up to 1-2 GHz at a couple hundred watts, switching
between 6-10 connectors, and these are easily controlled by anything from an
automated arduino to a pushbutton control panel, so I would not be turned off
by the need for a switch.
Just my thoughts on the matter. I considered building my own LPDA as there are
many good calculators out there, but ended up with a large van for a rove
vehicle, which will happily swallow many large antennas. Now if it would just
run reliably....
Patrick
KB8DGC
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