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Re: [VHFcontesting] MSK144 contacts in cabrillo

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] MSK144 contacts in cabrillo
From: Marshall-K5QE <k5qe@k5qe.com>
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 13:59:19 -0600
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Hello All....I have been using PH for WSJT contacts in my log files sent to the ARRL for as long as I have been sending them. What WSJT does is to inject tones into the microphone connector(essentially). These tones follow the same path that speech would follow in the rig. For me, that makes it PH. None of my logs has ever been questioned or rejected.

In any case, the ARRL's VHF contests are not mode specific. In other words, the mode does not matter....you get to work the other station only once in any case. The robot does not match my PH against my contact's RY or CW.

I would rather that the ARRL not, by fiat, create a "standard" for WSJT type contacts. These contacts are clearly NOT RTTY. I don't want to have to edit my log files to change all the PH to {new standard} for just the WSJT contacts. Since MODE does not matter, spending a lot of time worrying about it us just wasted time and energy.

If someone else wants to use RY, go for it, but I will stay with PH unless I am forced to change. Since mode does not matter, why bother?

73 Marshall K5QE


On 1/28/2017 10:07 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
It most certainly does help, thanks. Exactly what I was looking for.

Sean WA1TE

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 18:38 Roger Rehr W3SZ <w3sz73@gmail.com> wrote:

There is an answer and Jay is 100% correct.   :)

I was told long ago that RY is standard.  There is good documentation
for this and so RY is what I have been doing for years to log digital
contacts for Cabrillo logs.

Here are some references, listed as first reference then quotation:

http://qsl.net/w3km/cab_template.htm
Most sponsors use `RY` for all non-CW digital modes.


https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~becher/ShackPrimer/N1MM%20Logger%20Documents%202011-02-03_merged[1].pdf
<https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~becher/ShackPrimer/N1MM%20Logger%20Documents%202011-02-03_merged%5B1%5D.pdf>
page 174:  Note: The Cabrillo standard only supports one mode designator
for digital modes: RY.


http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest%20-%20General/Tutorials/Submitting%20An%20Electronic%20Contest%20Log.pdf
The next item is the mode used . The standard abbreviations are PH for
an SSB or AM QSO, CW for CW, FM for FM, and RY for RTTY/digital modes

Hope that helps!

73,

Roger Rehr
W3SZ

On 1/28/2017 4:50 PM, Sean Waite wrote:
Sounds like there is no real answer, with some people doing PH or RY

As long as there is no official whatever for it, I guess we can use
whatever makes sense. Probably RY, though PH is reasonable as well.

Thanks,
Sean WA1TE


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017, 16:26 Keith Morehouse <w9rm@calmesapartners.com>
wrote:

RY will do it.

Jay W9RM
DM58 CO

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO
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On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Waite <waisean@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey All,

What do we put for Mode in a cabrillo file when you've made an MSK144
contact? The only options in the QSO standard seem to be CW, PH, FM or
RY.
Thanks!
Sean WA1TE
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