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Re: [VHFcontesting] Transverter for 446 FM

To: "'Bill Rogers - K2TER'" <k2ter@rochester.rr.com>, <VHFcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Transverter for 446 FM
From: "Terry Price" <w8zn54@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2016 08:24:14 -0500
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I would seriously consider a VHF ApolLO from DEMI, it gives you many
variations to play with to find one where there are no birdies. Using the LO
scheme of 435 - 26, 27, 28, 29 would put 446 at 47, 48, 49 or 50 MHz. I
think the problem you are going to have is the Diplexer in the output of the
mixer on the IF side of the transverter. I don't think it will pass
frequencies that high. A quick call to Steve at DEMI would be in order. What
you need is an LO at 104.5 (then X4 = 418 + 28 = 446) which would put 446 at
28 MHz but getting right on an even boundary is always asking for problems
with birdies. Since most SDR's and software allow for frequency offsets,
pick a weird LO that brings 446 to a non-boundary frequency and let the
software do the rest.

What Andy and I are doing for FM is to use something like a IC7000 or
706MKIIG with a 222 transverter off the 10m spigot to cover 6-446 FM. Using
N1MM, we set one of the stations for SO2R with our K3 as radio 1 and the FM
rig as radio 2. Then by just toggling back and forth, the logging captures
the right frequency and mode and since N1MM can switch audio and PTT lines,
it works out VERY nicely. We combine receive audio by just using the speaker
output from both radios through isolation resistors (I use 50 ohm 2w carbon
resistors) and Y them together.

Good luck, happy holidays and catch you all in January.

Terry - W8ZN
K8GP/R

-----Original Message-----
From: VHFcontesting [mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Rogers - K2TER
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 7:46 AM
To: VHFcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: [VHFcontesting] Transverter for 446 FM

Season's Greeting!

I am completing integration of ANAN-10's SDR as IF rigs for my rover. I have
to say I am quite happy with the simplified and integrated operating
experience for contesting this arrangement provides for our two operator
station with all transverters from 144-10G. So much so that I have added
provision to run FM with separate transverters that are available through
the same interface.  

The sticking point for me at the moment is 446 FM. I tried to re-crystal a
DEM transverter to give me 446 at 30 MHz but when I hooked it up to the SDR
I found there was a spur right on 30 - unusable. I could continue down that
path with another rock but before I do I figured I'd ask the question here.

Does anyone have suggestion/experience on how to get 446.000 from a 70cm
transverter?  I do have the option to go 42 MHz on the IF, if the
transverter filters would allow. 

Thanks and 73,
Bill
K2TER




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