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Re: [VHFcontesting] Cabrillo mode for a JT65 QSO??

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Cabrillo mode for a JT65 QSO??
From: Keith Morehouse <w9rm@calmesapartners.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 14:59:59 -0600
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What did N1MM+ put for mode ?

Jay W9RM

Keith J Morehouse
Managing Partner
Calmesa Partners G.P.
Olathe, CO


On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:53 PM, VE3DS <ve3ds@acanac.net> wrote:
> Using N1MM + and the robot kicked out my WSJT contact with VE1SKY until I put 
> RY for the mode, then it took it..
> Wonder why N1MM’s ARRL QSO party log program put in a non permitted cabrillo…
>
> 73 Dana VE3DS
>
>> On Jun 19, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Roger Rehr W3SZ <73w3sz@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> I agree with what you say to do, log it as RY.
>>
>> My reasoning is based on the fact that I upload my logs to LOTW and use that 
>> for Awards purposes.  So a mode designation is needed that will [1] be 
>> acceptable to Cabrillo and [2] be acceptable to LOTW, and which will [3] 
>> likely "work" what your QSO partner has uploaded to LOTW to give you a 
>> confirmed QSO in LOTW.
>>
>> For digital modes and LOTW, the ARRL states at:
>> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/LoTW%20Instructions/TQSL%202_0%202013/Secodary%20operations/Digital%20Modes.pdf
>>
>> "LoTW will match a QSO as long as the calls, time (+/-30 minutes), date, 
>> band and mode are the same. For digital modes all digital sub mode (PSK31, 
>> JT65, JT9, MT63,OLIVIA, etc.) will qualify as DATA. (The same applies for 
>> voice modes. All voicemodes qualify as PHONE).  That is to say that if you 
>> log a QSO as PSK31 and the other operator logs the same QSO as RTTY then 
>> LoTW will match the QSO, assuming all other parameters match, and each 
>> operator will be credited with DATA"
>>
>> And the chance that your QSO partner will log a digital QSO as some digital 
>> mode, I believe, is significantly greater than the chance that he will log 
>> it as "PHONE" or a phone mode.
>>
>> So RY it is :)
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Roger Rehr
>> W3SZ
>>
>> On 6/19/2015 12:44 PM, David Pruett wrote:
>>> Ken,
>>>
>>> PSK is not a legitimate Cabrillo mode.  According to the published Cabrillo 
>>> 3.0 specification on the WWROF site, these are the only legitimate Cabrillo 
>>> modes:
>>>
>>> CW
>>> PH
>>> FM
>>> RY
>>>
>>> Based on this, even W5ZN's suggestion to show it as SSB (which was almost 
>>> certainly the mode your transceiver was set for) doesn't comply.
>>>
>>> As some have suggested, the mode is not a scoring parameter in the ARRL VHF 
>>> contest, so perhaps it doesn't matter.  In the end,  it all boils down to 
>>> what the ARRL contest robot and the logchecker will accept.
>>>
>>> If it were me, I would do like K7CW suggested and change it to RY.  Then 
>>> there can be no argument that it is legitimate Cabrillo data representing a 
>>> digital mode QSO.
>>>
>>> 73, Dave/K8CC
>>>
>>> On 6/19/2015 10:27 AM, Kenneth Silverman wrote:
>>>> We made some JT65 EME QSOs in the June VHF contest.  Is there a correct
>>>> mode to use, or is mode irrelevant?  We currently have it marked as PSK.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks, Kenny K2KW - C6ATA in the contest.
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