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[VHFcontesting] Rover rendezvous in Gap PA?

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Subject: [VHFcontesting] Rover rendezvous in Gap PA?
From: James Duffey <jamesduffey@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 20:49:08 -0600
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The recent exchanges here point out that there are still unresolved issues 
regarding rovers coordinating contacts and operating locales in VHF/UHF 
contests. This has been going on for nearly 22 years. Another round of 
discussion here, while almost certainly to be interesting, is unlikely to 
resolve anything. I hope that the Ad-Hoc committee addresses this issue soon 
and that is where our input should go. To many of us, this is as important a 
VHF contest issue as is assistance, which the committee chose to deal with 
quickly. The longer standing problems take longer to resolve I guess. 

AF6O is correct, there is little grid circling these days. With the 100 QSO 
limit with another rover, it is better to use those QSOes for multipliers 
rather than QSO points, so most of the rover-to-rover QSOes occur at grid 
boundaries, not at the convergences. This does little, however, to reduce the 
perception, some have that these contacts are not as worthwhile as those that 
occur spontaneously between rovers that have not coordinated their efforts. 
Whether or not one agrees with this, the desire not to compete with these 
coordinated rovers by the individual uncoordinated rovers is real. Over the 
years, with several rules changes and several scoring changes, this difference 
has proven to be irreconcilable. The Unlimited Rover category, an attempt to 
separate coordinated roving efforts from other roving efforts, has largely been 
a failure in that regard.

The very existence of a rover class encourages coordinated roving as, over the 
course of a contest, rover-to-rover QSOes contribute more to a competitor’s 
score than QSOes between or with non-rovers. This is a fundamental issue that 
the committee should deal with. 

I think that rover rules based on some variation of the 10 GHz and up contest 
rules for VHF/UHF contests would address many of the concerns, both perceived 
and real. Nearly everyone in the 10 GHz and up contest roves on one weekend or 
the other, often in groups. Yet there are no complaints about coordinated 
roving in the 10 GHz and up contest. The 10 GHz and up rules encourage QSOes 
between rovers over significant distances and require that one end of the QSO 
move a significant distance before recontacting the same station. The rules 
also give 100 points for each unique station contacted; a good incentive for 
working stations other than the rovers one travels with. It seems to me that 
implementing those rules would be mutually beneficial to both sides in the 
rover controversy.

You may have other ideas. That is good. Whether or not you agree with my 
comments on roving, commenting about the rules here will not have the same 
impact as writing to the Ad-Hoc committee members and letting them know how you 
feel about the issue and making suggestions for the way you want it. Please do 
that. I hope we will get some effective rover rules that everyone can live with 
from the committee. This can only happen if they have significant input from 
rovers and fixed station operators.  

If you have suggestions for future and I hope, better rover rules, you should 
make them known to the ad hoc committee:

Kermit W9XA (Chairman)  < w9xa@arrl.org >

Dave   NN1N             < nn1n@arrl.org >

Marty  N6VI             < n6vi@arrl.org >

Doug   K4AC             < k4ac@arrl.org >

N6VI has roved with the Southern California group and I know that W9XA has also 
roved. I am not sure whether K4AC or NN1N have roved. So, there are members of 
the committee who have roved and should have some knowledge of the issues 
involved. Send them an e-mail. - Duffey KK6MC/r
--
KK6MC
James Duffey
Cedar Crest NM





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