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[VHFcontesting] Optimum 6 meter yagi height

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Subject: [VHFcontesting] Optimum 6 meter yagi height
From: jon jones <n0jk@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:30:38 +0000
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If you can put up a 6M yagi *really* high -- the pattern will approach free 
space. The nulls

Bill W5WVO notes go away. You will be loud at all E-skip distances and for 
groundwave.

 

This situation may occur if one operates portable from a really high peak or 
next to a cliff with

a sharp drop off.  Or from a tall building.

 

If you have the opportunity to operate 6M portable from a high quiet location, 
it is amazing how the band

sounds.

 

 - N0JK

 


 
> 50-60 feet is a good average height to shoot for. (Wish I could get my 2x5el 
> stack that high.) However, sporadic-E can want take-off angles all the way 
> from flat (0 degrees) up to around 16 degrees for very short skip. The 
> length of the skip depends on the intensity of the cloud's ionization (the 
> Es MUF). When the Es MUF is very high and the skip very short, you're much 
> better off with a lower antenna (as low as 20 feet), assuming your 
> surrounding ground is relatively clear so you can make best possible use of 
> the ground bounce gain.
> 
> Apart from a low take-off angle (not always what you want, but often) -- The 
> other thing that greater antenna height affords you, and a lot of people 
> overlook this fact, is that the higher the antenna, the further it is from 
> man-made noise sources on the ground. A quieter band is a band where you can 
> hear (and work) weaker signals! Noise is also discrimminated against in the 
> azimuth plane, so a longer yagi with a narrower beamwidth not only has more 
> gain on transmit, but picks up less noise (unless it's pointed right at the 
> noise source). That is assuming the long yagi has been computer-modeled 
> properly and has minimal side- and back-lobes.
> 
> Putting a 6-meter yagi REALLY HIGH (like, over 100 feet) will give you the 
> maximum possible signal at the horizon for tropo and bleeding-edge Es and F2 
> DX -- but it will also give you lots of ugly NULLS in the elevation pattern 
> where your signal can drop by as much as 15-20 dB. So you might be pinning 
> somebody's S-meter at 1,450 miles away, but the guy who is 900 miles away 
> isn't going to hear you anywhere near that loud, all other things being 
> equal. Then you need to go to a lower antenna to cover that nulled take-off 
> angle.
> 
> As all the 6m Big Guns will tell you, the ideal solution for 6 meters is a 
> stacked set of long-boom yagis at various heights from "real low" to "real 
> high" that you can switch around either for single use or for use in phased 
> combinations. Since most "normal people" can neither afford nor find space 
> for an antenna system like that, it all comes down to compromises and 
> trade-offs.
> 
> Bill W5WVO
                                          
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