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Subject: [VHFcontesting] Assisted EME
From: CatWhiskR@aol.com
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 20:17:30 EDT
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Guys,
 
I have been following this thread for the last few weeks and I did want to  
respond to the following question from W9SZ, which I don't think anyone has 
 actually answered yet.
 
Zack  Widup wrote:

> Part of the reason given for dumping  the Assisted  category was the use 
> of the assisting method to  actually assist with  the QSO. This would be 
> wrong, obviously;  once you start to make the  QSO you shouldn't use any 
> other means  of trying to enhance  it.
>
> Not being an EME op, I wonder  just how prevalent this  practice is, 
> though?  How many  people have done  it?
>
> 73, Zack  W9SZ
 
I can only speak for my experience on 2 meter EME over a 3 1/2  month 
period in late 2007, which included two contest weekends. Over that  period of 
time I made 219 EME contacts. 211 were on WSJT and 8 were on CW. Using  1100 
watts output and 4 ea. 2M9 antennas. As as a side note, you can see from  the 
above statistics where all the action is on EME. Using both CW and WSJT, it 
 is invaluable to have access to the spotting/chat system (assisted). While 
it is  certainly possible to work stations on random, they will be few and 
far  between. That is a fact. With a normal receiver, JT65 only looks at a 
very  narrow portion of the band, and with birdies and other trash on the 
band, it is  difficult to tune around and see folks. There are systems/radios 
available that  will let you see the whole band at once, and all the signals. 
If you have a nice  quiet location that will be a big help.
 
To answer Zack's question, over the period of time I was active, I never  
saw anyone use the spotting/chat/assisted network to help complete a  
contact. The JT65 program either decodes the signal and gives you useful 
contact  
information or it doesn't. If it doesn't, you keeping trying or give up. Yes, 
 you can fake it, but that is another issue not limited to EME or Assisted  
operating. The spotting network is mostly used to see the frequency someone 
 is operating on, and after the contact, saying thank you. Overall I 
consider  JT65 to be a very slow and frustrating contest mode. A good CW 
contest  
contact is much faster. But it is a great way to get on EME and make 
contacts.  BTW, I would say that a good 20%, maybe more, of my JT65 contacts  
could 
have been made on CW as I did actually hear the signals. 
 
I don't feel that there is justification to eliminate the assisted  
category. It will impact contest participation and scores. Not a recipe for  
growth.
 
Terry/N6CW
 


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