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Re: [VHFcontesting] Putin up

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Putin up
From: "Jim Forsyth" <mail@jimforsyth.com>
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 14:20:57 -0700
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Frank,

Your response has nothing to do with your allegation which started with:

>There is no rule that prohibits one from forgetting to log a contact in the 
>log they
>turn in or logging the contact wrong. When the partner of a QSO does not 
>log a QSO
>it penalizes the other party beyond the value of the one unconfirmed QSO if 
>it
>exceeds a certain limit.

Followed by:

>So going out and handing out bogus QSOS you may not log is a valid strategy
>to win the contest.  That’s what they are saying about the lunch box
>rovers.

> K3UHF

This is just *you* making an unsubstantiated allegation while attributing it 
to some mythical "they".

Here's another of your generalities, you wrote:
>They refuse to voluntarily share their logs.

What are the names of the people that refused to share their logs and when 
were they asked?

Jim, AF6O


> Jim Time to put up:
>
>
> QST’s article stating that the group you sometimes travel with worked 
> themselves for 98 percent of their QSOS.
> June 08 QST issue.  Mentions it in a neutral fashion, but confirms it 
> exists.
> I have clipped and pasted the team efforts and posted them showing how 
> people in the same teams have the exact same number of QSOS and 
> Multipliers, then they allow on person to work three extra people to win 
> by a greater margin.  People don’t notice it because its not a 3 point 
> victory it’s a 3 x the multiplier point victory.
>
> The sad thing is that the group you have traveled with and many others 
> will not put up or knock it off. They refuse to voluntarily share their 
> logs and hide behind the defunct skirts of the ARRL to say they don’t have 
> to make logs published.
>
> Some of us play Texas hold’em for fun others make a living at it. Most of 
> us are not dumb enough to hand the pot off with out seeing the winning 
> cards on the table. Well unless you fold on the issue like the ARRL is 
> doing.
>
> The only way to effect change at this point is to embarrass the ARRL about 
> the true nature of the ham activity above 2.4 ghz.  The FCC needs to know 
> the lack of skill it takes to work the car ahead of you in a caravan on 10 
> ghz.  This is how we police ourselves when we tried to get this settled 
> for years and tried to allow traditional roving to co-exist with people 
> who only work themselves.
>
> Maybe its sub conscious but that may be the reason my ARRl awards are not 
> framed and my 3905 century club  one is.
>
> I need to save those web pages of wayne overbeck for the FCC and those who 
> need the spectrum.
 

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