Before we go off and demand things from the ARRL, I think it
would be best to ask why they haven't done so in the past,
and ask what needs to be done to change this.
>From a practical point of view, computer submitted logs now
make all sorts of things possible that the league simply could
not have done before. And, even with the modern tools to do
this there is the question of the ARRL needing to get the
permission of the submitters to do this. In addition, they need
to have be able to handle a top scorer who does not want
their log open to the world.
Me, I'm all in favor of this happening, but I can see it being
more work, and the concept of folks not wanting logs being
published needs to be respected.
...Perhaps some independant entity could hold them, if
that doesn't already exist? Voluntary, but still interesting to
see.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en82
On Thursday 20 November 2008 14:02:41 Marshall Williams wrote:
> Hello to all.....ROGER ROGER.......It may be a waste of web space to
> publish all the logs, but certainly the logs of the top 10 in every
> cagegory should be published. Others could be published at the
> discretion of the Contest Branch. In every other realm, contest entries
> become the property of the group that administers the contest.
>
> I have never understood the reasons that logs should be kept secret. I
> know that this idea has something to do with HF contesting, but I cannot
> understand at all why it matters.
>
> We should all do as Frank has suggested: Request / demand the release /
> publication of the logs(top 10 or all of them). I just don't know how
> to do this or where to send the request / demand. Help me
> out.....flames will be immediately consigned to the bit bucket.....
>
> 73 Marshall K5QE
>
> frank bechdoldt wrote:
> >I feel we own the logs as member of ARRL.
> >
> >Perhaps some should formally ask to see them.
> >
> >The ARRL is a membership and maybe a non-profit, I’m not so sure they
> > could legally hide them.
> >
> >If my ARRL dues pay to process your logs it is logical that the membership
> > would have the right to see them.
> >
> >My suggestion would be for those that agree to write the ARRL staff and
> > section leaders asking that they publish the logs in the future.
> >
> >A simple rule would be “ All logs submitted will be posted on line.”
> >
> >If one chooses to keep their log private they could not turn it in.
> >
> >If the ARRL wants an intellectually correct comptetive system with awards
> > and posting scores in QST or on line they need to follow through with
> > posting the logs on line. The technology is now there as compared to 15
> > years ago.
>
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