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Re: [VHFcontesting] What was the true intent of the changes?

To: <wa4kxy@bellsouth.net>, <k4gun@comcast.net>, <jamesduffy@comcastnet.com>, <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] What was the true intent of the changes?
From: frank bechdoldt <k3uhf@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:18:09 -0700
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Ok, I will stand corrected on that one.
 
However, my opinion is if one team posts massive scores it skews it for all of 
us who don't team rove and a firm division is needed.
 
I suppose if it was never posted, the comunity as a whole would of never known 
it was going on.
It's as if they are testing the waters.
 
Good Luck wi> From: wa4kxy@bellsouth.net> To: k3uhf@hotmail.com; 
k4gun@comcast.net; jamesduffy@comcastnet.com; vhfcontesting@contesting.com> 
Subject: RE: [VHFcontesting] What was the true intent of the changes?> Date: 
Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:53:08 -0400> > I don't recall anyone in the VUAC saying 
that we would not revisit the rover> rules in the future. As a matter of fact 
we specifically said that we would> wait a year or two to see how things worked 
out and then suggest additional> changes to the rover rules if needed. We have 
moved onto other things in> the meantime. I think you would all agree that it 
is not a good use of our> time to sit around and do nothing while we wait to 
see what happens with the> rover rules. The intent of the rules changes put in 
place this year was to> address concerns that had been expressed by many with 
regards to the rover> rules, especially with regards to grid circling. It was 
our intent that by> creating an unlimited rover class and then puttin
 g a 100 Q limit on contacts> between two rovers in the other two classes 
(classic and limited) that would> encourage the folks that like to pack rove 
and/or grid circle to operate in> the unlimited class. We may or may not have 
succeeded in doing that.> Frankly, I am taking a wait and see attitude on this. 
All we have now is a> sample of exactly two contests (January and June) and a 
bunch of controversy> based on some comments made in one entrants soap box.> > 
73> Jim, W4KXY> VUAC Southeastern Division Representative> > -----Original 
Message-----> From: vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com> 
[mailto:vhfcontesting-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of frank bechdoldt> 
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 5:47 PM> To: k4gun@comcast.net; 
jamesduffy@comcastnet.com;> vhfcontesting@contesting.com> Subject: 
[VHFcontesting] What was the true intent of the changes?> > > I don't mean to 
pick on a volenteer. I think we thought there was a> comprimise here or a 
gentelman's agreement. When I say 
 write the contest> comittee it's because some in the VUAC said they are not 
going to address it> again. The entire contest and the awards and ect are a 
living document and> change as practices and technology change.> > The A in 
VUAC is Advisory and its just that, they offered advice, the ARRl> made the 
final decision. I'm now unclear if they meant to clean it up. If> that was the 
intent then work is needed. If it wasnt the intent then it is> what it is and 
team roving and grid circling has became 3 times as rewarding> as result. 
Perhaps that was the intent and I was wrong.> > What was the true intent of the 
rule change?> If rules dictate behavior, has the goal been met?> > Thats the 
unfortunate thing of declairing mission acomplished and moving on.> The effort 
is appriciated even if the intent isnt understood.> > > > > From: 
k4gun@comcast.netTo: k3uhf@hotmail.com; jamesduffy@comcastnet.com;> 
vhfcontesting@contesting.comSubject: Re: [VHFcontesting] to answer the other> 
questi
 on.Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:14:44 +0000> This is perhaps the best summary I 
have seen to describe what I see as the> problem. I commend the VUAC for making 
an attempt to clean it up and I> don't think there's any need to criticize 
their efforts. I'm hoping that> they see that a little more tweaking is needed. 
> > Steve> > -------------- Original message -------------- From: frank 
bechdoldt> <k3uhf@hotmail.com> > > The rules have watered this down some, you 
need to> have a bigger team to do the > same thing and the team can now feed 
off each> other to dominate 3 rover classes. > > If this is a competition where 
you> hope to achieve something and compair your > efforts to others then it is> 
truely pointless as long as this is allowed to go > on. If you are in it for> 
fun or to help hand out grids, then its good. But many > of us would like to> 
compete on a level playing field where we dont have to round > up a half> dozen 
buddies to rack up a decent score. > >> ______________
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