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Re: [VHFcontesting] New Contest from denver

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] New Contest from denver
From: "kentke" <kentke@infoblvd.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:44:15 -0400
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(The goal of this is to get people out to rare grids with equipment that can
let
 them talk to populated grids. )

>From one who has gone to rare grids with the equipment to do the job right,
all I can say is; "good luck".  We advertised for over 2 months prior to the
event's on reflectors, club sites and web sites.  Most don't care if it's
rare and don't bother to look for you even on your advertised freq.   Good
thing we turned the grid-expidition's into mini vacations afterwards, that
turned out to be the saving grace for the time and money spent.

Ken
KA2LIM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <K3uhf@aol.com>
To: <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 1:02 PM
Subject: [VHFcontesting] New Contest from denver


> For those of you interested bear with me its a long one,
>
>
> Interesting thought about Denver and pack rovers.  For one pack roving is
> discouraged in this contest by limiting the amount of qsos in percentage
with any
> roving to roving station. Therefore the pack would not grid circle for
each
> other and would be forced to aim back to Denver (good for the hams in
Denver
> right)?  However a club could send out 'x" amount of rovers to aim back to
> Denver.
>
> First the pack of rovers lets say a pack of 4 guys (biggest I have heard
of I
> may be wrong) goes out and circles Denver.  They are not all class 6
grids,
> but on average 1.5 times that of lets say around the lower populated areas
of
> the East.  Denver would not be unlike Seattle, Portland phoenix, parts of
Texas
> ect..  These 4 guys will activate lets say 14 grids worth 150% as much as
14
> grids in the East.  However these 14 grids have an exponentially lower
number
> of hams per grid square than the grids in the East.  A class 3 grid which
> dominates the continuos suburbs of the NE corridor has a min pop of 2048
hams per
> grid square. A class 6 (worst case in this scenario) has less than 256
hams
> per grid square.
>
> The fixed station persay in the NYC area will get many more points because
> there are at minimum 8 times the hams in the grid squares around them.  A
team
> of 4 rovers in the East would get a larger score because every grid they
went
> to had a min. of 8 times the hams.
>
> The Denver scores will be lower than an NYC score because 4 rovers are not
> going to tip the scales like an arrl contest might. There are no
multiplies for
> new grid squares.  In Arrl's contests, when an 6 band rover went out to 14
> grids and aimed back at home he gave everyone who worked him a chance at
84
> points per all qsos made in the contest on 2/6 meters, More on the higher
bands.
> This system does not pyramid that way. The same 14 grids would be judged
on
> distance and rarity of the grids activated.  You have the opportunity to
work the
> guy 84 times but it wont effect your whole score multiplier if you did
> because there is no whole score multiplier.  A new grid wont help your
overall
> scores each qso stands alone.
>
> I don't think there will be a limit on fixed stations working rovers
however
> there will be one on rover to rover contacts.  They wont be worth much
anyway
> with no distance between each other unless they circle or co-orbit each
other
> 100s of miles apart on 2 different intersections at the same time.
>
> Clubs would be wise to build well equipped rovers who can make long haul
> communications and sent them on a grid square orbit around their home
area. This
> is not an arrl contest so a club wont be limited to 175 miles.  This is
not
> fair for Hawaii, sorry guys.
>
> Finally and I say it again winners are by division as far as points go.
The
> goal of this is to get people out to rare grids with equipment that can
let
> them talk to populated grids.  One would have to make the rarity system
> exponential from x to x to the 5th power to level the playing field.
>
> Nationally longest qsos may be listed by top 10 qsos per mode per
> propagation. As well as top 5 per division.
>
>
> I like the scutiny and feedback does this make sense?  Please send more
this
> has evolved from my orinal ides some 6 months ago.  Also any links to
european
> contests would be good.
>
> thanks guys
> k3uhf
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