Wow, what an uproar! And it continues even though we all knew it was
coming.
I know that I'm in the minority but I actually prefer the expanded results
on-line. What I'd really like to see is a further expansion of the on-line
results
as NE0P describes below AND what W2EV proposed back in May. I've included
Ev's original post on the subject and a link to his proposed expanded
results page.
If I remember correctly his post did not generate much discussion at the
time -
now that it is a hot topic again I hope it generates more discussion.
73,
Ed K3DNE
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From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
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Does anybody remember the furor over moving line-scores to the web? At that
time, I thought that we may want to re-examine how line scores are
presented, with the hope that "we the VHFers" could suggest even a greater
amount of useful information could be made available in those listings.
I went about asking the top three scoring stations in each category (as
shown on the New England Weak Signal contest recap page) some additional
questions about their setup for the contest...and I added that information
to their claimed score and band-by-band breakdowns.
I found it interesting that several participants "chose not to share, for
"strategic reasons", their information. That is one LAME argument and have
now said so publicly (see: definition of TROLL). And at least one
participant "couldn't be reached" to be asked to provide the information.
Here's my attempt to define "cool information" to have, if anyone would be
interested in lobying the 'powers that be' to expand on the Cabrillo format
so that it could capture this additional data.
Have fun with it...I did.
Ev, W2EV
BY THE WAY...it's a PDF...
http://www.rochesterny.org/BEACONet/line-scores/line-score.htm
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At 08:42 AM 7/25/02 -0700, John Geiger wrote:
>Interesting idea, although the glossy paper that QST
>is printed on might give a smoother finish.
>
>That aside, does anyone else thing that the contest
>write-ups in both QST and CQ are pretty poor? CQ just
>goes through and reiterates the top 10 boxes in text
>format. I can look at the top 10 boxes and don't need
>to read their write up.
>
>QST gets cutsey and tries to compare the contest to
>baseball, drag racing, or Santa Claus, but then do
>essentially the same thing as QST.
>
>I would like to see a contest write up discuss
>propogation for the contest, which they will mention
>when it is extremely good or poor during the contest
>phase. I would like to see them discuss equipment and
>antennas used by the winning stations. Or how about
>operating strategies (although some stations might not
>wish to reveal these). For example, some of the multi
>stations in the VHF contests will work 60 or 70 grids
>on 6 meters when there is no eskip to speak of. How
>do they do this? Use meteors and WSJT? These are the
>things I would like to see discussed.
>
>Other human interest stories would also be neat. How
>do the best rovers get it done, and what interesting
>experiences did they have during the contest. You see
>all sorts of wild things and meet interesting people
>while operating mobile or portable. My friend Don,
>NL7CO, had one farmer accuse him of irradiating his
>cattle while he was roving. That is a classic contest
>experience to report.
>
>I realize that the editors can only work with what
>they get. Maybe we all need to send more information
>to them about our contesting. The soapbox helps a
>little, but I would like to see it put into a more
>cohesive writeup.
>
>73s John NE0P
>
>--- "Dan Evans, N9RLA" <n9rla@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Best post I've seen in months:-)
> >
> > You guys keep it up, it's a long time until the next
> > contest!
> >
> > 73
> > Dan
> >
> > Dan Evans N9RLA
> > Scottsburg, IN 47170
> > {EM78}
> > IN-Ham list administrator
> > QRP-l #1269
> > 1/2 of the N9RLA /R no budget Rover Team
> > Check out the Rover Resource Page at:
> > http://www.qsl.net/n9rla
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
> > To: "Tim Marek" <timm@cccomm.net>;
> > <vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>
> > Cc: <k6fq@arrl.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WSWSS] QST contest results
> > > True, but I can print out the results the moment
> > that they are released
> > and take
> > > them to the crapper. If I learn that I didn't do
> > as well as my principal
> > > competition I have the added benefit of having the
> > personal satisfaction
> > of
> > > wiping my bum with their score.
> > >
> > > <giggle>
> > > Ev Tupis, W2EV
> > >
> > > PS... I must now go to Staples or Office Max and
> > find high-cotton laser
> > paper so
> > > I can reprint and repeat as often as my fragile
> > pride requires me to.
> >
> >
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