Towertalk
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [TowerTalk] Terrain Modeling (was choke on vertical dipole)

To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Terrain Modeling (was choke on vertical dipole)
From: Wes <wes_n7ws@triconet.org>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 17:14:48 -0700
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
Note where I say "constrained by county zoning limits"

I live within 1,000 feet of Saguaro National Park and fall within a Pima County BOZO (Buffer Overlay Zone) that restricts structure height, building color and reflectance, including roofs if not shielded by parapet walls, and non-native plant species.  I got the zoning people to go along with a 50 foot tower height.  So that is what I live with.  A small Optibeam (OB7-3) triband Yagi, an inverted V. apex at 45' and a 50' vertical for the lower bands.  (Before the vertical, I did work my first 80 countries on 160 with the inverted V with the ends 6' above ground)  My shack is in a 6 ft x 7 ft closet with a single 120VAC 20A service.

Despite not having mapped my terrain or having used propagation forecasts, I have earned No 1 HR (Mixed), HR (Phone), CW DXCC (320),  DXCC on traditional RTTY (274), 9-band DXCC plus 144 countries worked on 60-meters.  Do I recommend these limitations, of course not, if you have the means.  But if you don't, do not despair.


Wes  N7WS


On 1/15/2026 2:57 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
If used extensively with good data, will tell us the relative effectiveness of mounting heights. With that information, we can make more intelligent decisions about what to do with what our real estate, budget, and other capabilities allow.

In my case, I learned that 120 ft was near optimum for EU, my most difficult direction, that a few more tower sections were not better, and that to get better, I'd need to go to at least 300 ft! :)

I also learned that 20 ft at different location on my property was a minor sweet spot for a small 10M yagi.

I spent close to a month on it. Neighbor K6XX, 4 miles up the ridge from me, used it extensively in planning his antenna farm.

73, Jim K9YC

On 1/15/2026 11:21 AM, Wes Stewart via TowerTalk wrote:
  Speaking primarily as a ham radio DXer, constrained by county zoning limits, my take on terrain modeling is, "What am I going to do about it?"  Propagation prediction is pretty much the same question.

_______________________________________________



_______________________________________________
TowerTalk mailing list
TowerTalk@contesting.com
http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>