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Re: [TowerTalk] Raised Radial Spacing

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Raised Radial Spacing
From: Brian Beezley <k6sti@att.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2025 08:33:13 -0700
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W6FB:

"In this design the “ground wire” is actually a 1/4 wave ring that wraps around the base of the antenna."

One issue with a compact counterpoise is that feedline decoupling becomes more difficult. Imagine a 1" counterpoise with a series inductance to resonate it. If you were the inner shield current coming up out of coax, would you rather go there or down the outside of the shield? You can model this issue to get some idea of its severity.

Another issue is that a compact counterpoise gives up the directivity provided by a single straight radial. A single radial is not something I'd ever imagine might work well. However, some of the SOTA people use one as part of a portable hilltop antenna. The Elecraft KH1 includes one. When I first modeled a vertical with a single radial, I was surprised how directive it could be. In one modeling session, I had to increase the number of radials from two to four to regain the gain at low angles provided by just one. Symmetric deployment of two or more radials cancels the electric field directly below, minimizing current induced in lossy ground. So I had always assumed two radials was the minimum you'd ever want to consider. A little modeling dispelled this notion.

For these antenna systems, frequency and height above ground can make a big difference as can the details of the counterpoise or radial. It's easy to wrongly generalize by examining too few models. Results also depend on the ground constant values you use. The generic values your antenna analysis software offers are inappropriate. You'll find more realistic generic values here:

https://k6sti.neocities.org/hfgc

Dale, I don't know whether using a single radial for each band instead of two would be worthwhile for your situation, but it's something to consider.

Brian
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