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Subject: [TowerTalk] A different dipole design
From: Stan Stockton <wa5rtg@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 10:05:17 -0500
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A few months ago I designed and my son built a 2L 40m Yagi using this type of 
design for loaded elements inspired by the W6NL style Moxon since that’s what 
he was going to build.  The results are virtually the same in terms of gain, 
pattern, etc., but it is not as unwieldy and reduces the weight out on the 
element that causes it to sag excessively. TBD, but I believe it is less likely 
to interact with a 15m antenna.

I have the need to put up a 40m dipole between a couple of towers here at 
ZF9CW.  If the towers were about 20 feet farther apart I would just put up a 
flat dipole but they are a little close spaced for that.  The element is going 
to be less than 50 feet long and it will be 50 ohm direct feed as opposed to 
about 75 ohms if it were just a normal dipole.

For those who want to put up a dipole for any band, do not have the room for a 
flat dipole and do not want to either do some impedance matching with a 12th 
wave transformer or live with 1.5-1 SWR at best, here are the details of what I 
am going to find the time to do on 40 meters.  I will be limited to using the 
materials on hand. I would rather use #14 wire.

49 feet total (24-1/2 feet either side of center) of #16 wire fed in the 
center. At 15 feet out from center on either side there will be a 6 foot piece 
of 3/8” aluminum tubing that will be electrically connected in the center to 
the wire which will continue out for another 9-1/2 feet. So there will be 3 
feet of aluminum tubing either side of center.  From the ends of the aluminum 
tubing there will be #16 wires that will connect to the end of the wire (24-1/2 
feet out).  Those two wires should be ever so slightly slack so when the dipole 
is pulled up to its flat position there won’t be any significant stress on the 
ends of the aluminum tubing.

If you just draw this on paper it looks like a dipole that is 20 feet shorter 
than a normal dipole and near the ends you have what looks like an arrow.

I have this skewed a little toward the bottom end of the band, but about 4 
inches shorter overall length would give you less than 1.5-1 from 7.0 to 7.225.

The gain of this dipole is about 1/4 dB less than a full sized dipole.  Its 
bandwidth between 1.5-1 points is about 25 khz less than a full sized dipole 
but only if you do a perfect job of matching your 50 ohm coax to the higher 
impedance of the full sized antenna.

I probably won’t do anything other than write this but if I get inspired I 
might sometime write it up for a magazine. I can see great benefit for those 
with limited space.  A flat dipole is so much better than what’s commonly 
referred to as an inverted V.  

I’ll be glad to send an EZNEC file to anyone who wants to get a better picture 
of the design.  Just send me an email.

73 and Merry Christmas.

Stan, K5GO/ZF9CW



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