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Re: [TowerTalk] In phase?

To: john@kk9a.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] In phase?
From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 20:55:39 -0600
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I tried it with a couple of stacked 10 meter beams and found that it might
occasionally allow me to copy a signal off the back by reducing the qrm
from the signals coming from the front. Not worth the effort in my opinion.

Chuck W5PR

On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 7:13 PM <john@kk9a.com> wrote:

> I have heard of people that like the out of phase option however I had the
> same abysmal experience trying BOP on 40m as VE7RF's buddy.
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> Jim VE7RF wrote:
>
> ##  A buddy in wash state tried the Top, Bottom, both in phase (BIP),   and
> both out of phase  (BOP),   on his stacked 40m yagi's  (180' and 90').   I
> designed the box.
>
> ##  That BOP was an abysmal experiment, wasted effort.   After 6 months, he
> finally found just one instance (40m daytime) where BOP was the
> loudest...and that was with both yagi's pointed south....and the station
> was in Ore...at 11:00 AM. in the spring.
>
> ##  I know one other fellow who had similar results on 20m....lousy.   The
> BOP function might work on 17-15-12-10m..... dunno.
>
> ##  Looking at it  in software at the time, BOP had more gain, BUT at a
> higher angle than the bottom yagi by itself.  BOP is too high an angle, so
> yes, you got more gain, but the angle is too high...and results sucked.
>
> ##  So if you did wire one balun out of phase compared to the 2nd balun,
> you would probably know about it asap.
>
> ## Buddy found that BIP was always the loudest 90% of the time.  Switching
> from BIP to BOP was like apples and oranges, blatantly obvious.
>
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