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Re: [TowerTalk] measuring old coax, return loss ?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] measuring old coax, return loss ?
From: Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Reply-to: jim@audiosystemsgroup.com
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 10:00:29 -0700
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On 5/8/2024 9:42 AM, Jamie WW3S wrote:
What is a good way to test older coax?

With a good, and well calibrated, Vector Network Analyzer 1) measuring S21 to see loss; and 2) making a TDR measurement with a sweep to at least 500 MHz.

Deterioration in old coax is assumed, but rarely true unless it's gotten wet. More than ten years ago, I helped N6RZ's widow dispose of his station and massive stash. It included a lot of coax. I didn't have that measurement capability then. I took a lot of it to an NCCC meeting for giveaway to members. All of them turned their noses up at it, so I brought it home and built stubs from it.

Measuring those stubs, I found that all but one of them had a very deep notch where it resonated; the only one that didn't came from a piece of coax that had been badly stored, and had gotten wet. The braid showed significant corrosion.

Water commonly enters coax at connectors that are poorly waterproofed, and at nicks in the outer jacket due to some sort of abrasion. I had water enter coax at a home-brew center insulator for a high wire dipole. I discovered it when seeing water coming out it at the arrestor panel. This was about 150 ft of a good RG11, and the VNA saw a mild increase in the loss (this was after maybe a year), and the braid was badly discolored.

73, Jim K9YC

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