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Re: [TowerTalk] Copper wire theft

To: Courtney Judd <k4wi@k4wi.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Copper wire theft
From: Ken WA8JXM <wa8jxm@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2023 02:01:56 -0500
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Well the neutral line isn't really required on the high voltage feedlines.
Our power line used to come directly from the ridge across the road, an
800' span 200' above the road..  Several times we found the neutral line
broken and down in the trees.Our power was not affected.

Ken WA8JXM

On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 5:39 PM Courtney Judd <k4wi@k4wi.net> wrote:

> A couple of years ago one early Monday morning I took my Huskie for a
> walk down my 1/4 mile driveway and when I got out to the county road I
> noticed three wires about 2 ft long sticking out from the power pole
> across from my driveway. I was looking at them and scratching my head as
> I have never seen them before.... That's when I realized there was no
> bottom power line going North, going South or back up the driveway....
> someone during the night had cut about a mile's worth of lower power
> line. I called my Power Company and they said they were having problems
> all over the County.  About 3 weeks later they caught them.... had their
> own bucket truck... cutting down the bottom ground line and selling it
> over in GA somewhere. oh well takes all kinds! lol 73's Cort K4WI
>
> Herschel Hall wrote on 12/26/2023 3:28 PM:
> > I completely repiped a rental house with PEX and it is freeze proof, at
> > least with temps we get in the Midwest.
> > Herschel
> > WA9KIA
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 7:08 AM Charles Gallo <charlie@thegallos.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Despite the advertising that it is “better”, I believe this is the
> reason
> >> we are seeing PEX used for plumbing.
> >> --
> >> 73 de KG2V
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >>> On Dec 25, 2023, at 9:33 PM, kq2m@kq2m.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> There was a big problem in 2011 when Copper futures first approached $5
> >> / lb and retail prices approached $10/ lb.  Thefts of copper plumbing
> from
> >> commercial buildings and vacant apartment buildings all over the US
> became
> >> rampant.  In other countries it was far worse.
> >>> In early 2022, widespread theft of Copper became commonplace again as
> >> Copper futures spiked to $4.68 / lb.
> >>> https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/copper
> >>>
> >>> It is predicted that copper shortages will develop and become more
> >> frequent in the future as worldwide demand grows and the approval of and
> >> supply from new mines continues to lag increases in demand.  You can
> >> imagine what might happen to Copper prices in the future and the
> resultant
> >> increase in theft.
> >>> Bob, KQ2M
> >>>
> >>>> On 2023-12-25 15:43, Steve Maki wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In India they are taking the whole cell site, including the tower.
> >>>>
> >>
> https://wirelessestimator.com/articles/2023/thieves-find-it-more-profitable-in-india-to-steal-the-entire-cell-site-instead-of-stripping-cable/
> >>>> -Steve K8LX
> >>>>> On 12/25/23 2:37 PM, Radio KH6O wrote:
> >>>>> Your tower might be an invitation to copper wire thieves:
> >>>>> https://insidetowers.com/copper-is-being-ripped-out-coast-to-coast/
> >>>>> We had an incident in Honolulu where someone tried to steal LIVE
> >>>>> high-voltage wiring; the guy ended up being a charred pile of ash.
> >> Bummer
> >>>>> for him.
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