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Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 247, Issue 7

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] TowerTalk Digest, Vol 247, Issue 7
From: GEO Badger via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: GEO Badger <w3ab@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 18:34:04 +0000 (UTC)
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I have a Yaesu G-1000 rotor mounted on the top of a 60' Aluma crank-up tower, 
no thrust bearing. Right above the rotor is a KLM KT-34XA on a 6' 2" dia 
aluminum mast. On the top of that is a 3 el 6M Yagi. Going on 20 years with no 
issues. Highest recorded gust was 70 MPH, tower was cranked up! When I saw 85 
MPH at work,  I came home and lowered the tower. It was swaying in the wind.
Pix on request.
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73 de W3AB/GEOAFA9GB
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Today's Topics:

  1. Thrust bearing for AB-577?? (Pete Smith N4ZR)
  2. Re: Thrust bearing for AB-577?? (Joe Subich, W4TV)
  3. Re: Thrust bearing for AB-577?? (Pete Smith N4ZR)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 09:41:47 -0400
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
To: TowerTalk <TowerTalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Thrust bearing for AB-577??
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I have a C-3E tribander on an AB-577 "rocket launcher."? I also have a 
3-element 6-meter yagi that I was planning to mount 6 feet above the 
Yaesu rotator at the top of the 577, but was deterred by concern of some 
knowledgeable hams that this might overload the rotator and cause a 
catastrophic failure, destroying the rotator and the tribander.? That's 
just too big a risk for me.

It occurs to me to wonder whether someone out there has contrived a way 
to mount a thrust bearing above the rotator on an AB-577?? I can 
visualize what this might look like, involving a structure attached to 
the top of the top-most tube below the rotator and supporting a thrust 
bearing a foot or so above, but don't want to reinvent the wheel unless 
necessary.

-- 
73, Pete N4ZR


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:05:40 -0400
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>,    "[TowerTalk]"
    <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Thrust bearing for AB-577??
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Yaesu show a mast bearing - mount to the mast above the rotator and
guy - but with your relatively small load I don't see a need for it.

Look at the loads K7NV had on his AB-577(s) with no bearing above the
rotator.  His TH7 represents significantly more load that you are
proposing.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 7/18/2023 9:41 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
> I have a C-3E tribander on an AB-577 "rocket launcher."? I also have a 
> 3-element 6-meter yagi that I was planning to mount 6 feet above the 
> Yaesu rotator at the top of the 577, but was deterred by concern of some 
> knowledgeable hams that this might overload the rotator and cause a 
> catastrophic failure, destroying the rotator and the tribander.? That's 
> just too big a risk for me.
> 
> It occurs to me to wonder whether someone out there has contrived a way 
> to mount a thrust bearing above the rotator on an AB-577?? I can 
> visualize what this might look like, involving a structure attached to 
> the top of the top-most tube below the rotator and supporting a thrust 
> bearing a foot or so above, but don't want to reinvent the wheel unless 
> necessary.
> 


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:37:18 -0400
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>,    "[TowerTalk]"
    <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Thrust bearing for AB-577??
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That's true, Joe - the thing that concerned people was the 6-foot lever 
arm above the tri-bander, even though the antenna mounted at the top of 
it is quite small.

73, Pete N4ZR

On 7/18/2023 11:05 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> Yaesu show a mast bearing - mount to the mast above the rotator and
> guy - but with your relatively small load I don't see a need for it.
>
> Look at the loads K7NV had on his AB-577(s) with no bearing above the
> rotator.? His TH7 represents significantly more load that you are
> proposing.
>
> 73,
>
> ?? ... Joe, W4TV
>
> On 7/18/2023 9:41 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote:
>> I have a C-3E tribander on an AB-577 "rocket launcher."? I also have 
>> a 3-element 6-meter yagi that I was planning to mount 6 feet above 
>> the Yaesu rotator at the top of the 577, but was deterred by concern 
>> of some knowledgeable hams that this might overload the rotator and 
>> cause a catastrophic failure, destroying the rotator and the 
>> tribander. That's just too big a risk for me.
>>
>> It occurs to me to wonder whether someone out there has contrived a 
>> way to mount a thrust bearing above the rotator on an AB-577?? I can 
>> visualize what this might look like, involving a structure attached 
>> to the top of the top-most tube below the rotator and supporting a 
>> thrust bearing a foot or so above, but don't want to reinvent the 
>> wheel unless necessary.
>>

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