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Re: [TowerTalk] Xm240 to moon - Link to W6NL_Moxon104.pdf

To: marsh@ka5m.net, 'BRUCE FORD' <ks9u@aol.com>, "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Xm240 to moon - Link to W6NL_Moxon104.pdf
From: Leeson <leeson@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: leeson@earthlink.net
Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 16:03:21 -0700
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From W6NL: The history of this antenna begins with my 2003 antenna with 27-foot boom, designed for our 125 mi/h (200 km/h) winds. See https://www.kkn.net/dayton2004/dayton-2004-antenna-forum.html This antenna is still in use here. Copies were built by K5MR, K6KR, KZ1W and others. The K5MR antenna is now at N4BAA.

In 2007, K3LR asked me to modify the design for less wind load than we have here, for convenience to be built with available parts of the Cushcraft XM240. See http://www.kkn.net/dayton2007/w6nl_ant.pdf and http://www.k3lr.com/engineering/ The first try www.k3lr.com/engineering/moxon/W6NL_Moxon104.pdf was not quite strong enough for the winds there, so a modified design was made in 2010 as www.k3lr.com/engineering/moxon/W6NL_Mox_100.pdf In 2012, W2SC asked me to provide an updated design to use at 8P5A, see www.k3lr.com/engineering/moxon/W6NL_Mox_Tube_100.pdf For a discussion of modeling this type of antenna, see www.k3lr.com/engineering/moxon/W6NLMoxonModeling.pdf

These have been built by W1UJ and K1KP in a project of the Yankee Clipper Contest Club, for their own use and for W2SC/8P5A. See https://w1uj.net/Moxon/ Here you will find many files describing their work to build these antennas. See particularly K1KP's Dayton talk https://www.kkn.net/dayton2012/DaytonAntennaPaper05102012.pdf and https://www.yccc.org/Scuttlebutt/2011/butt2011_10.pdf Also see https://w1uj.net/Moxon/K1KP/readme.html

In 2014 I was asked by WE9V to update the design to account for some minor errors he found in the wind calculations. Also, he wanted to make his antenna from 6-foot (2-meter) lengths of tubing. The antenna was finished in 2015, see https://www.we9v.com/antennas.htm The element dimensions for this antenna are in WE9V Moxon 100 mi.pdf and Visio-Moxon Cushcraft XM240 40M.pdf The dimensions from WE9V are here, from an email from me to him near the end of his project:

"So in summary, an antenna making good use of XM-240, especially the expensive bigger sections, has 99 mi/h survival and should have the same electrical performance as the other W6NL-Moxons. The elements, all with 0.058" wall, are as follows for the reflector, which is the more stressed element:

1-1/2"x72"   EH and EA used as reinforcement, add new 1-1/4"x24" inside
1-3/8"x72"   42" exposed, with reinforcement inner 24"
1-1/4"x48"   45" exposed, EB
1-1/8"x48"   44" exposed, EC
1"x16"       13" exposed, half ED
7/8"x18"     14" exposed, new part
3/4"x6"      Reinforced, new, to mount cross element
1/2"x48"     39" exposed , EF (could be more or less)
3/8"x36"     13.25" exposed, half EJ, for proper tip length

For the driven element:

1-1/2"x72"   EH and EA used as reinforcement, add new 1-1/4"x18" inside
1-3/8"x72"   42" exposed, with reinforcement inner 15"
1-1/4"x48"   45" exposed, EB
1-1/8"x48"   44" exposed, EC
1"x16"       2" exposed, half ED
7/8"x18"     2" exposed, new part
3/4"x6"      Reinforced, new, to mount cross element
1/2"x48"     39" exposed , EF (could be more or less)
3/8"x36"     32.5" exposed, EG, for proper tip length

I hope this is what you were looking for. My grandkids always tell me "TMI."

There are also commercial versions of my design, such as W3JK's JK402T https://jkantennas.com/jk402t.html, see also https://ac0c.com/main/page_acc_towersantennas_40m_stack.html The JK402T has several clever mechanical features, such as the mounting bracket for the cross elements. But it is expensive, so many hams prefer to build from scratch. DX Engineering has been rumored to be considering offering a kit based on my design, but nothing concrete at the moment.

73 de Dave, W6NL/HC8L/P40Q

On 5/20/23 1:33 PM, marsh@ka5m.net wrote:
The attachment didn't work, so here's the link:

http://www.k3lr.com/engineering/moxon/W6NL_Moxon104.pdf

Hope this helps.

Marsh KA5M




-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of BRUCE FORD via 
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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 2:54 PM
To: TowerTalk@contesting.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Xm240 to moon

I know I am late (always) to this but downsizing and replacing the 160 ft rotating 
tower with a nice 3el 40 with a 70ft Tristao and a XM240. The band width is not so 
great and have been reading about this upgrade. I can find no actual pictures of the 
Moxon element fully constructed so I have to assume looking at tubing lengths each 
element is about 18ft in total or 9 a side from the boom. Sorry so stupid…just 
getting old I guess.If anyone has picture of element end constructed and mounted that 
would be great.

Thanks for any help

Bruce K9RO
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