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Re: [TowerTalk] Yaesu contol box?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Yaesu contol box?
From: <k1ttt.dave@gmail.com>
Reply-to: k1ttt@arrl.net
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 19:15:40 -0400
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HUH????  The g-800/1000/2700/2800SDX series going back to at least the 1980's 
were all dc drives

David Robbins K1TTT
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-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Jack Brindle 
via TowerTalk
Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 16:07
To: Towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Yaesu contol box?

It happened long before 2019. My G-1000DXA from the 2000’s is a DC device. 
Schematics for the controllers and rotors are on-line and available.

73,
Jack, W6FB


> On Aug 6, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Grant Hopper <kb7wsd@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There is one "gotcha" to all this.  In 2019, Yaesu changed to using DC on
> the rotors.   From DX-Engineering "  Instead of the usual AC motor drive
> used in older rotator designs, the G-2800DXA, G-1000DXA and G-800DXA 
> use a variable-voltage DC motor, removing the need for a large 
> starting capacitor with its potential for failure exposed to outside 
> temperature variations.
> "  The 450 and the 5500 are the same way.
> 
> There might be an easy way to determine the AC vs DC upon inspection.  
> I haven't looked at all the manuals to confirm this but at least with 
> the 450, it uses only four wires for DC types.  Otherwise, some of the 
> models are stamped with a "DC" after the model number eg. " For 
> clarity, the new DC rotator motors are marked "G-450DC" at the 
> connector. The rear panel of the controller is titled "G-450ADC" on the 
> serial number label."
> 
> 73,
> Grant
> KB7WSD
> 
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 8:55 AM <k1ttt.dave@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well, yes, kinda, maybe in a pinch.... all the boxes use the same 5 
>> pins for motor power and indication, so yes, they can all be used if 
>> needed to power each other... HOWEVER, the 2700 and 2800 use the 6th 
>> pin to detect when it is getting near the end of travel to invoke an 
>> auto slowdown to keep the more powerful motor and likely heavier 
>> antenna from hitting the hard stop too hard.
>> 
>> David Robbins K1TTT
>> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>> web: http://wiki.k1ttt.net
>> AR-Cluster node: telnet://k1ttt.net:7373
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of 
>> k7lxc--- via TowerTalk
>> Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 11:35
>> To: towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: [TowerTalk] Yaesu contol box?
>> 
>> Howdy, TowerTalkians -
>> 
>>     Are Yaesu control boxes interchangeable? Since they all have the 
>> same wiring, I'm thinking that they can all work with other Yaesu rotators. 
>> Is
>> this right? Tnx.     Cheers,Steve     K7LXC
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