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Re: [TowerTalk] DACRON ROPE CLARIFICATIONS Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 216

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] DACRON ROPE CLARIFICATIONS Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 216, Issue 7
From: Artek Manuals <Manuals@ArtekManuals.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 14:37:56 -0500
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Steve

In my recent experience ( I have not bought from you but there is always the next order 8^). There are two basic rope designs out there these days.

One I will call the "rope within rope". Usually consists of a core rope (stranded or braided)  with a 2nd braided sleeve  over the core. The braided sleeve is not physically attached to the core .

The 2nd type is  what I would call a fully integrated  braided rope where the entire cross section of the rope is one solid braid
Which is yours?

Dave
ArtekManuals

On 12/8/2020 2:07 PM, Steve Davis | Davis RF wrote:
Hi T Talkers,

STI of California was mentioned below.  I used to buy from them but switched to 
another USA Mfr. who provides stronger rope at lower prices.  STI supplies some 
ham dealers and I supply the rest. My rope is stronger, size per size than they 
sell.  DX Engineering also sells STI.

I haven't checked lately but my prices are lower than other dealers.

   Ref. buying from DAVIS RF, my affiliate which I started years ago:   My 
other company noted, DavisRopeAndCable.com, has more variety of rope.  I still 
work with both companies.  Confusing?  HI   My last name is Davis, i.e. the two 
similar co's.
    Thanks, Steve  K1PEK
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Today's Topics:

    1. Re: Dacron Line for Dipole Needed (David Gilbert)
    2. Re: Dacron Line for Dipole Needed (Nidhog)
    3. Recommendation for Rope Supplier  Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol
       216, Issue 6 (Steve Davis | Davis RF)
    4. Re: Recommendation for Rope Supplier Re: TowerTalk Digest,
       Vol 216, Issue 6 (Steven Katz)
    5. Dacron (Rob Atkinson)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 10:29:13 -0700
From: David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
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I've bought LOTS of black dacron line over the years because we used it
for supporting various wire antennas in tall trees for Field Day.? I
bought most of it from Davis RF, and the stuff is still holding up
strong even after many years in the Arizona sun.? It comes in various
thicknesses and you can buy it by the foot.

http://www.davisrf.com/dacron.php

Depending upon what thickness you think you need, 200 feet will probably
cost you between $20 and $25 plus shipping.

73,
Dave?? AB7E





On 12/7/2020 9:03 AM, Mike Ryan wrote:
   I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending
some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 12:40:28 -0500
From: Nidhog <robrk@nidhog.net>
Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
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Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8

https://www.dxengineering.com/search/part-type/rope?SortBy=Default&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=Rope&kr=Rope

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 7, 2020, at 12:29, David Gilbert <ab7echo@gmail.com> wrote:

?
I've bought LOTS of black dacron line over the years because we used it for 
supporting various wire antennas in tall trees for Field Day.  I bought most of 
it from Davis RF, and the stuff is still holding up strong even after many 
years in the Arizona sun.  It comes in various thicknesses and you can buy it 
by the foot.

http://www.davisrf.com/dacron.php

Depending upon what thickness you think you need, 200 feet will probably cost 
you between $20 and $25 plus shipping.

73,
Dave   AB7E





On 12/7/2020 9:03 AM, Mike Ryan wrote:
  I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending
some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 18:05:19 +0000
From: Steve Davis | Davis RF <sdavis@davisrf.com>
To: "towertalk@contesting.com" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Cc: "mryan001@tampabay.rr.com" <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Recommendation for Rope Supplier  Re: TowerTalk
         Digest, Vol 216, Issue 6
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Hi Mike,  My firm sells a variety of Dacron (aka Polyester) double braid rope 
which is resistant to UV, rot, mildew and abrasion.  MADE IN USA.

Our rope is less expensive than other ham dealers, but is high quality, made in 
USA, and stronger size vs. size of other dealers.  We have many 
types/sizes/constructions of other types which we sell to numerous industries, 
military, etc. We give the same low wholesale prices to our fellow hams.

Please contact me directly for pricing.  We sell a lot to hams for hanging wire 
dipoles, masts, small towers, etc.

   73,  Steve  K1PEK    DavisRopeAndCable.com   (not to be confused with our 
affiliate DAVIS RF Co., a separate entity and location, which I am the founder 
and also fully involved with.)

NOTE: The tel # on our website is incorrect and the web hosting co. has to fix 
it.  The correct #  is  978  618  0496

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:03:08 -0500
From: "Mike Ryan" <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
         <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
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  I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending
some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 18:26:58 +0000
From: Steven Katz <stevek@jmr.com>
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Cc: "mryan001@tampabay.rr.com" <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Recommendation for Rope Supplier Re:
         TowerTalk Digest, Vol 216, Issue 6
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I get this rope directly from the manufacturer, Synthetic Textiles Inc. in 
Anaheim, CA.

Been using a lot of it since 1993, when it was first introduced.

As it reads on their website,

"STI's Double-braided Polyester Antenna Support Rope was originally developed 
and manufactured at the constant urging of a local Ham radio operator. His years of 
expertise in amateur radio equipment, combined with ours in braiding various fiber, 
inspired the development of this special double-braided rope to fit the needs of 
amateur radio operators.

  "STI's Double-braided Polyester ropes are not weakened by decay or mildew and 
provide excellent resistance to abrasion. The color sealed black polyester yarn used in 
the braided jacket also protects the cord from ultra-violet light."

I urged them to make this rope available to the "ham radio antenna installer" 
market in 1993, back when they were two women running the shop in Ventura, CA and bought 
five 1000' spools of each size offered.  They've since relocated to Anaheim, but I 
believe the rope is the same.

de WB2WIK

-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk <towertalk-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of Steve Davis | 
Davis RF
Sent: Monday, December 7, 2020 10:05 AM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Cc: mryan001@tampabay.rr.com
Subject: [TowerTalk] Recommendation for Rope Supplier Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 
216, Issue 6

Hi Mike,  My firm sells a variety of Dacron (aka Polyester) double braid rope 
which is resistant to UV, rot, mildew and abrasion.  MADE IN USA.

Our rope is less expensive than other ham dealers, but is high quality, made in 
USA, and stronger size vs. size of other dealers.  We have many 
types/sizes/constructions of other types which we sell to numerous industries, 
military, etc. We give the same low wholesale prices to our fellow hams.

Please contact me directly for pricing.  We sell a lot to hams for hanging wire 
dipoles, masts, small towers, etc.

   73,  Steve  K1PEK    DavisRopeAndCable.com   (not to be confused with our 
affiliate DAVIS RF Co., a separate entity and location, which I am the founder 
and also fully involved with.)

NOTE: The tel # on our website is incorrect and the web hosting co. has to fix 
it.  The correct #  is  978  618  0496

Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 11:03:08 -0500
From: "Mike Ryan" <mryan001@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "'Tower and HF antenna construction topics.'"
         <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Dacron Line for Dipole Needed
Message-ID: <000001d6ccb2$7553cec0$5ffb6c40$@tampabay.rr.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

  I am looking for 200ft of black (or other color) Dacron line for suspending 
some dipoles. Any recommended sources (w/ good pricing) out there?  Also
need ONE just one, 502 guy wire insulator.   - Mike



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2020 05:34:34 -0600
From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>
To: towertalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Dacron
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Don W7WLL posted this link about a year and a half ago
https://www.eversoncordage.com/tarred-seine-twine
and according to some, this stuff used by fishing operations is less
expensive and stands up to wind, salt water and UV.

On 4/19/2019 8:25 PM, Don wrote:
That is what I use out here on the left coast, a tarred twisted line that is produced 
by a firm (Evanston?) up in the Seattle area. Used by the fishing fleets up and down 
the left coast for numerous purposes. I've never had >one break under the most 
severe conditions. Do need to secure the ends because it is twisted. A little flame 
or dipped in resin. Available at ship chandlers and suppliers. Withstands salt, UV 
and rain. I have one antenna >that it has held up for 17 years and still looks 
good.

Rob
K5UJ


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